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darz5150
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2020 11:29pm
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Just curious what everyone's thoughts are.
If you new in January what you know now. What would you do different? Nothing? Everything? Maybe just a few things?
Do you think it will be over soon?
What have you been eating lately?
Have you changed your TP use habits?
When was the last time you or your loved ones got to see a Dr. or dentist?
When was the last time you saw your loved ones? When will you see them again? Will you be afraid to hug them?
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darz5150
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 12:13am
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Another question.
I live in the Midwest. They are currently modifying 5 refrigerated semi trailers, into temporary morgues.
They are doing this on the states DOT property. Fenced in.
Where they are doing this. Almost splits 2 counties.
In those 2 counties, there, as of this morning news. A total of 6 deaths.
The question is. Why would you need to build 5 morgues, in 52 foot trailers, between 2 counties with only 6 deaths?
Very strange.
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Irrigation Guy
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 08:43am
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I live on Long Island and it has hit here very hard. There are 20 some thousand cases in Suffolk county, 24 in my hamlet of 5,000. And these are confirmed numbers the actual numbers are likely through the roof. We have to wear face masks in public. It is bazaar. We have a large immigrant Latino population on the island and it has been ripping through their community fiercely. Many of these immigrants live multiple families to a home, share cars, ride crowded buses, and work in jobs such as landscaping where they ride 3 to a truck. That have no way to isolate themselves even if they wanted to.
My town is a vacation community for the wealthy from NYC and they have all fled the city to their summer homes. The town is busting at the seems with the influx of people and the one grocery in town can’t keep up. These people have nothing to do so the go for walks or bike rides with their friends but the walk abreast at 6’ distance in the road because most roads here have no side walks. It is literally like a slalom course trying to avoid these jackasses. I am afraid that when this is all over they won’t ever go back to the city for fear of another outbreak which might mean I move to my cabin full time.
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Nobadays
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 10:05am
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Not sure we would do anything differently. Maybe wouldn't have taken the trip to Whitehorse at the end of February.... but that is hindsight and before we really knew what was to happen. We were at the cabin in March when things started to get crazy.... opening the cabin for summer... planned to move in the end of April. Made the decision to just make a quick trip home and load up and move in early. Our primary home is in a rural area, cabin is as well.... neither area hit hard by covid-19.
We make a trip into town about every ten days or so to get mail and fresh veggies... any building materials, etc needed. We are eating pretty much the same.... using more cheap TP ... what we can get... than normal, trying to use rags rather than PT for some things.
I tried to go see a Dr during the 5 days we were back in AZ but no luck.... tore up my elbow snowmobiling this winter. Extra Aleve and Nexium to keep the Aleve from tearing up my stomach, getting better.
Family live far away, nothing different there, maybe text more with our daughters. Hopefully this is over soon.... but I fear opening up too soon will just cause more trouble. It's a Catch-22, don't open up and the economy may take forever to rebound, open too soon and covid-19 will certainly rebound.
I'm saddened by those protesting, the governors, and the folks complaining on social media about "our freedoms" being taken away. We are so adamant as Americans that we are free to do as we please that even restrictions for our own safety brings out paranoid conspiracy theories and people buy into that.... sad.
Take care all....
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ICC
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 10:52am - Edited by: ICC
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There is nothing I have done since January that I would do differently. But I did not do some things that I had planned for February and March. I canceled two recreational trips, one to WA and one to AZ.
I also do not go into town as much as I used to. No driving in for the Sat AM get together with a group of friends who have had a Sat AM breakfast at the diner for something like 35 years. When I do go in for fresh foods about every 10+ days, I nod hello; no hand shaking, hugs, etc. I wear a surgical type mask. (I have my own stockpile since SARS). I have a grandson doctor in a nearby hospital.
The nearby hospital has 11 beds, no ICU. Ten of the eleven beds have covid-19 patients on O2. The eleventh was empty.
I believe that covid-19 will be with us for a prolonged period. It is not going to simply disappear on its own. We need a vaccine and that is likely a year away at best. We also need good, rapid and accurate testing. It would also be to our advantage if we in the US had a contact tracing system. That along with tests and isolating those infected would go a long way to slow the spread and ease the healthcare load.
Quoting: Nobadays I'm saddened by those protesting, the governors, and the folks complaining on social media about "our freedoms" being taken away. We are so adamant as Americans that we are free to do as we please that even restrictions for our own safety brings out paranoid conspiracy theories and people buy into that.... sad.
I can't improve on that Nobadays, so I will just copy it.
In many ways Americans are not as free as they want to think they are. A little research can open some eyes.
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paulz
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 11:54am
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Agree with you guys on that note..
I have had various bouts of headache, slight fever, diarrhea an abdominal pain since this has started. The gastro I have been blaming on my altered diet, and the abdominal pain as muscle strain for the heavy lifting I never seem to be able to get away from. No sore throat or breathing issues, which I keep waiting for. Wife has had no symptoms. Apparently a lot more men get it.
So many conflicting stories on test results, symptoms, it's tough to know if you have or had it, or when to get tested. Yesterday I went to a friend's to get a DVD for my movie project. Went in the house, found out his wife had 103 fever for two days, never got tested and recovered.
Now they are saying it was not the wet markets but a bio lab in China as the source. We are on mandatory masks here too, but you can find conflicting stories on that too..
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 01:11pm
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Quoting: darz5150 The question is. Why would you need to build 5 morgues, in 52 foot trailers, between 2 counties with only 6 deaths?
Because they are expecting a lot more. Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 01:13pm
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Quoting: darz5150 If you new in January what you know now. What would you do different?
I would have bought a box of masks. I don't have any and I have an eye exam next week. They are requiring you to wear one during the appointment. No idea where I'm going to get one.
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mj1angier
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 05:31pm
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It was on my knowledge grid about Jan 22 so I stared getting ready both at home and at work (vet hospital). We were pretty stocked up with food and supplies- TP was kind of a surprise, still using what I had stocked and good for 405 weeks but that was something that got gone fast.
We are still paying staff for 40 hours but we ar only open about 15-18 each week. I can do that for about 7 more weeks- 8 if the wife and I get the $1200 fro the .gov, it will just go into work funds.
Made my 80 year old mom stop work ( told her if she wanted to keep working to rent a hotel room to stay in- she works at a hospital). My special needs cousin that lives with is bored- none of his group fun times are going on and no NASCAR or baseball on tv, but we do Zoom with other members in it so its something.
Sad note, my wife has a baseball sized mass on ovaries that she has to go into Duke for surgery next week. Between cancer concern and COVID-19, we are on edge.
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Gary O
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 09:47pm
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We moved back to the cabin a bit over a week ago.
Not unhappy about that.
Concerned for the economy.
Doubt life will be the same for quite some time.
Much to do at the cabin.
Glad to have a place untainted
Hate masks
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darz5150
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2020 11:24pm
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Here's a few screenshots.
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Gary O
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# Posted: 19 Apr 2020 08:39am
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Quoting: darz5150 Here's a few screenshots.
Good'ns
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darz5150
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# Posted: 19 Apr 2020 10:07pm
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Here's a few quotes from Ben Franklin.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.â€
“Security without liberty is called prison.â€
“If you fail to plan, you are planning to fail!â€
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ICC
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# Posted: 19 Apr 2020 11:39pm
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Quoting: darz5150 They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
That comes up a lot in certain discussions. I believe it is always important to understand the original context when using an old phrase to bolster ones present-day arguments.
"Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century"
There are many Franklin quotes. One I like is “There never was a good war or a bad peace.†There have been a few 'just' wars but never, IMO, any 'good' wars. He wrote that about the time the end of the Revolutionary War with Britain.
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AK Seabee
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# Posted: 19 Apr 2020 11:58pm
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Love the memes Darz
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 12:39am
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Quoting: AK Seabee Love the memes Darz
Thank you.
These are very strange times for all of us. If I can share something to induce a smile or laughter, even for a few seconds. I will do it.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 12:58am
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Quoting: ICC . I believe it is always important to understand the original context
That's the way I feel about the Constitution.
I grew up saying the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America every day at school. We were required to learn the Constitution. Unfortunately, I see both being stomped on. Not just because of the latest pandemic. Just because.
Here's another quote. See if you think the context/meaning is the same.
PAUL HARVEY’S ‘IF I WERE THE DEVIL’ TRANSCRIPT
If I were the devil … If I were the Prince of Darkness, I’d want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I’d have a third of its real estate, and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn’t be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree — Thee. So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States. I’d subvert the churches first — I’d begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: ‘Do as you please.’
“To the young, I would whisper that ‘The Bible is a myth.’ I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what’s bad is good, and what’s good is ‘square.’ And the old, I would teach to pray, after me, ‘Our Father, which art in Washington…’
“And then I’d get organized. I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting, so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa. I’d pedal narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.
“If I were the devil I’d soon have families that war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flames. If I were the devil I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions — just let those run wild, until before you knew it, you’d have to have drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.
“Within a decade I’d have prisons overflowing, I’d have judges promoting pornography — soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress. And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls, and church money. If I were the devil I’d make the symbols of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.
“If I were the devil I’d take from those who have, and give to those who want until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.
And what do you bet I could get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get rich? I would caution against extremes and hard work in Patriotism, in moral conduct. I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun, that what you see on the TV is the way to be. And thus, I could undress you in public, and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure. In other words, if I were the devil I’d just keep right on doing what he’s doing.
Paul Harvey, good day.â€
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 01:46am
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Don't know what you think about the outdated context.
It was written in 1965. But although not word for word. It sounded strangely similar to the recent morning news on the tv
that I listened to while in the oval office, simultaneously receiving a free corona virus update text. Lol.
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ICC
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 10:31am
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Well, the introduction of religion and politics into a thread that began with the question of how the covid-19 pandemic has affected our lives is a derailment we did not need.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 12:04pm - Edited by: darz5150
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With all due respect. When I started this thread I intentionally made sure not to mention politics or religion. I was hoping people might have some helpful tips. And to stay away from some other posts about toilet paper inequity etc.
So if you can take a minute. Read my first 2 posts. Then take a look at end of the 5th post. Starting with a quote. Then read the next line.
With that said. My feelings are not hurt, I won't be going to my safe space or calling the suicide hotline because you point your finger at me. Just do me one favor sir. If you feel the need to point your finger at me. Please make sure that your finger is clean before pointing it.
No disrespect. And best wishes. Have a nice day.
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ICC
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 12:53pm
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Yeah, you are right, you were not the first to wander into politically tainted thought. And I made the error of adding a little fuel to that fire. But not as much, IMO, as a lengthy opinion from Paul Harvey, a rather conservative person and I'll just leave that sit there like that and not make any further comments in this thread. I should have known better to make any comment that in any way, shape or form touches on politics or religion. But both tend to grab my attention and I do have strong opinions and I sometimes say or do things that annoy others. So for that I am contrite.
More to the topic of effects being felt....
My vehicle insurer has given me some discounts that are welcome.
I had a phone visit with my doctor the other day. My healthcare provider system has actually been doing those for a variety of complaints for a couple of years. Much better than having to drive in for an appointment for the more simple things. They can even prescribe meds for simple things.
Our farmers market is planning on starting up in May, but only for food. No crafts or non food items. Booths set apart. Separate booth cashier that only handles the money and does not touch food. Other people in the booth only handle the food. Customers don't touch the food, they point and ask for items. We are also going to take orders ahead of time, CC payments and have a pickup area. No on site seating for eating, but there are some truck vendors that will be present in the parking area.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 01:52pm
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ICC ðŸ‘😎
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 02:02pm - Edited by: darz5150
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Here's something that might get the thread back on track. And might help someone out.
It seems that in our rural area. That although TP
gets wiped out quickly. (Pardon the Pun)
At the stores. Quite often you can pick up paper towels. So I took a cheap dollar store roll of paper towels. And used a thrift store electric knife. And transformed 1 roll of paper towels, into 4 rolls of TP.
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paulz
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 05:35pm - Edited by: paulz
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Recent Redneck and COVID-19 Studies have demonstrated that rednecks have the lowest stress rate because they do not understand the seriousness of most medical terminology....
Medical Term/Redneck Definition
Artery/The study of paintings
Bacteria/Back door to cafeteria
Barium/What doctors do when patients die
Benign/What you be, after you be eight
Caesarean Section/A neighborhood in Rome
Cat scan/Searching for Kitty
Cauterize/Made eye contact with her
Colic/A sheep dog
Coma/A punctuation mark
Dilate/To live long
Enema/Not a friend
Fester/Quicker than someone else
Fibula/A small lie
Impotent/Distinguished, well known
Labor Pain/Getting hurt at work
Medical StaffA Doctor's cane
Morbid/A higher offer
Nitrates/Rates of Pay for Working at Night,
Normally more money than Days
Node/I knew it
OutpatientA person who has fainted
Pelvis/Second cousin to Elvis
Post Operative/A letter carrier
Recovery Room/Place to do upholstery
Rectum/Nearly killed him
Secretion/Hiding something
Seizure/Roman Emperor
Tablet/A small table
Terminal Illness/Getting sick at the airport
Tumor/One plus one more
Urine/Opposite of you're out
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 05:43pm
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@Paulz
Absolutely hilarious. Thanks bud. Keep em coming.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2020 05:45pm
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More funnies.
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ICC
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2020 11:10am
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Well, enough looking back. Now the question is how do we go forward? When?
In my NM local area one of the employers that supports many people I know is a steam locomotive railway that runs about 5 months of the year and gives scenic rides through the mountains to tourists. There are also a number of wilderness experience ranches. How many people are going to travel and be able to pay to enjoy those? There are also those who enjoy the camping and hiking; staying in BNB's and campgrounds both forest service and private commercial ones.
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Nobadays
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2020 11:52am
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Hmmmm.... we are near the other end of that Steam Locomotive line I do believe! Just over the mountains from ya! Snow today up here... we are just off FS 250 if you ever venture up this way... oh a long way through FS 250 from that end!
For the life of me I haven't figured out why the forest (Rio Grande for us) is closed to dispersed camping??? A couple of days ago some folks were camping just of the main FS road in an area that is a frequent dispersed camping area.... and the local deputy sheriff sent em packing. I can see campgrounds as someone would have to clean the outhouses, etc... but dispersed. Doesn't make sense. I think it is time to open up the forests, and trails... maybe not campgrounds.
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ICC
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2020 12:58pm - Edited by: ICC
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They are afraid of forest fires being caused by careless campers. I have friends who are rangers and it is mind-boggling how many unattended campfires they come across.
If they have to send out fire crews those guys are in danger from the coronavirus on the way to the fire in their trucks as well as the usual dangers from being wildfire fighters.
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ICC
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2020 01:04pm - Edited by: ICC
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You are north or south of Platoro Resevoir? I'm west of Chama a ways so there are a few miles between us.
Got rain with 48 F.
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