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neb
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2014 10:52pm
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Anyone get the shot? I don't believe in them but it is just me.
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2014 11:14pm
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Quoting: neb Anyone get the shot? I don't believe in them but it is just me.
YES Sir ~~~every year... I believe in them....
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hattie
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2014 11:14pm
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No, we don't bother. We don't see many people in the winter and avoid big cities because of the weather. It doesn't seem worth getting the flu shot for us.
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Just
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2014 11:35pm
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in Canada there is no cost to get it, any time, at any drug store , or clinic . I have been required to get it because I take anti immune drugs . Just makes sense to me .
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Rossman
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2014 11:38pm - Edited by: Rossman
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Neither the wife nor I get them. She works in daycare and is exposed to all sorts of bugs...neither of us really get sick.
I'm really not sure how effective the flu vaccines are (versus vaccines like MMR or whatever)
Quoting: Just in Canada there is no cost to get it, any time, at any drug store , or clinic .
Actually there was just a story today about how the govt supplied vaccines have run out in some areas, so some pharmacies are charging 20 bux or whatever for their version of the vaccine.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 12:04am
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No. Make that an absolutely, No! We both work with young kids, ages 3 to 5 and have not had a flu in decades. I always manage to get a cold at some point, but Karen doesn't even get colds.
My doctor keeps trying to have me get the flu vaccine, the shingles vaccine, the pneumonia vaccine but I politely decline. We eat right, get exercise and that seems to keep us healthy.
Almost everyone with a insurance plan can get them all for free here in NM, USA too. It's not the $$ that makes us shun them. If you really read up you will find the CDC exaggerates the efficacy. The vaccinations are all driven by the drug manufacturers who need the sales to push up the profits.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 02:30am - Edited by: silverwaterlady
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Yes.
I believe in vaccinations. Why? Because my BIL had polio when he was a baby. He was born in 1929. He was in hospital until he was 16.He suffered his entire life. I never heard a word of complaint from him. So I saw firsthand what the lack of a vaccination can do to a loved one.
I also think if you are around young or elderly people you should get a flu shot since they are the people most at risk for DEATH if they get a bad case of the flu.
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rmak
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 08:26am - Edited by: rmak
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I am a soon to be retired school teacher so I'm an old person around young people. Also, I had a serious health set back a few years ago so I know my immune system isn't like it was when I was 20. I get the shot every year and I have been flu-less. I even have fewer colds and "bugs" that pass through our school system through the winter months.
That said, a lot of our younger staff refuse to take the shot, as does my wife. All for various reasons.
I read an interesting article about how, because of our preoccupation with being clean and avoiding the inconvenience of small illnesses, we are actually less healthy than in the pasts and more prone to big diseases. According to the article this is due to the fact that we haven't build up a tolerance or resistance by overprotecting ourselves.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 08:58am - Edited by: silverwaterlady
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From the overuse of antibacterial products. Yes? I don't use those products.
If my BIL were alive he would be livid to know that there are parents that refuse to get their children vaccinated. My niece is one of those mothers. She thinks if she home schools them than they won't get ill. I sure would love to hear the conversation he would have with her.
How quickly people forget history. Maybe she needs to spend some time in a old graveyard and see how many babies and children are buried. Children that would be alive today thanks to the advances in modern medicine.
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SE Ohio
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 09:51am
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Local news a few years ago stated that if you didn't get the flu shot, your odds of getting the flu were about 30%. If you did get the shot, odds were reduced to 20%. A 10 % improvement... Numbers may have changed since. I still get a flu shot, cause I hate flu symptoms, and wouldn't want to spread flu to others if I can help it.
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SandyR
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 09:51am
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Silverwaterlady, I do agree with you about the ignorance of some people. Just because they are homeschooled doesn't mean that they are immune to illness! She must not have those kids involved in many things?
We homeschool, and our kids are not all vaccinated. I feel that everything we do has to be weighed. Polio has been eradicated in the Western Hemisphere because of that great vaccine, but I will not give it to my kids. If we traveled to a foreign country we would have them get it. Why vaccinate a newborn baby with vaccines that they do not need until they are much older?
When our son ripped his arm inside out on a metal fence when he was six years old he received the tetanus shot after he was done being stitched up, Why get it sooner? So that the shot wears off and his body is filled with high levels of harmful mercury and aluminum sooner than it needs to be? Those chemicals are so toxic to little bodies.
We also felt that is was more beneficial for them to have chicken pox, than to not ever have them. They had them three years ago. But, if they had an autoimmune issue they would have had the vaccine. They also had whooping cough two years ago.
When our son played elite baseball at the age of 12 and was traveling all over the east coast staying in dorm rooms with his team we choose to have him have the meningitis ( Hib ) vaccine. We felt that Meningitis is too great a risk to not have the shot.
Our 9 year old has never had a shot.
So what I am saying is that there is always a choice regarding the chemicals that we put into our bodies, and our children's bodies. Are the chemicals the lesser of the two evils? Everyone has to make a decision for their own best interest.
We don't get the flu vaccine right now.
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Rossman
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 10:12am
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Quoting: silverwaterlady polio
There is a big difference from the polio vaccine (which, while it had a shockingly bad start - hey let's give everyone polio! - is actually now really safe and a darn good idea), MMR, etc, versus the flu vaccine. The flu is constantly changing and the vaccine you get this year might not even protect you from the strain that is going around.
Personally I think polio, MMR etc are good but that the flu vaccines are a bit of a cash grab by big pharma (aided by the govt).
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neb
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 10:13am
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You know the funny thing about the shot is I see health people that get the shot and end up sick each year. If I get a cold I do and my body does what it needs to do to fight it off. I'm not saying the shots aren't a good thing I just don't believe in using them. I knew a few people that got so sick after taking the shot they will take one again.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 10:13am
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Quoting: SandyR When our son ripped his arm inside out on a metal fence when he was six years old he received the tetanus shot after he was done being stitched up, Why get it sooner?
Right. If you have a deep wound you should have the protection from a tetanus shot. If you have a deep wound you should go to the ER. If you go to the ER for a deep wound they will give you a tetanus shot most likely even if you have had one before (to cover their butts).
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 10:47am
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We live in a small world. Childhood diseases like polio have not been eradicated on our planet and they won't until every single child on our planet is vaccinated.
I hope your experiment works and your children remain healthy throughout life.
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hattie
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 12:21pm - Edited by: hattie
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I absolutely believe in vaccines for children. I think the reason many don't vaccinate their children is because we have not seen many of the very horrible diseases in so long. We tend to forget how horrible they were. If you know anyone who had polio, you would want your child vaccinated against it.
When I was a dental assistant I did get the flu vaccine every year because I was exposed to a lot of people. The only reason we don't bother now is because we are pretty isolated in the winter, so don't get exposed to lots of people who might be sick.
In Canada (unless things have changed in the last few years), the flu vaccine is free to elderly, the medically compromised and children. If you don't fit into that category, you must pay for it but it isn't very much money.
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Sustainusfarm
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 02:55pm
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Did you all know one of the ingredients in the flu shot is formaldehyde!?
Or sulpha...? One gives you cancer and the other gives you hives... No thanks
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SE Ohio
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 03:31pm
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Flu shot ingredients vary by manufacturer.
http://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206#influenza
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cabingal3
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 06:22pm
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nope.not us!
my son called.my lil grand daughter and all of them so sick.i told him I hope baby does not have flu.just sounded so past a regular cold.oh she has flu and an ear ache...they did not have childrens Tamiflu on hand.its on back order I guess.ew.
Oh Sustainusfarm...SULPHA??I am horrible allergic to that medication.i only got one flu shot all my life and I don't care what anyone says...I was sick as an ole dirty dog!
thank the Lord for immunizations.i had polio when I was a girl.lite case.
but my little grand daughter who just turned one last week.she was a perfectly fine baby till they gave her immunizations.
she turned right away into an epileptic.
she almost died.
its a personal situation decided by each person and family.i was always strong on making sure all my children got their immunizations.
my son and dil had babys seizures under control finally.she had gone thru 130 days with none.now with the flu...she is having seizures again.
just got my shingles vaccination.sure happy to have that shot.
u just never know whats gonna happen.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 06:27pm
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I believe that we give too many vaccinations to small children in too short a time. Many of the shots are doubled and tripled and more to cover many things at a time. That is one of the major differences between shots now and shots what we received when we were children some 60 years ago.
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SandyR
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 07:14pm
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Quoting: MtnDon I believe that we give too many vaccinations to small children in too short a time. Many of the shots are doubled and tripled and more to cover many things at a time. That is one of the major differences between shots now and shots what we received when we were children some 60 years ago.
I believe it too. Some kids are now getting up to 9-12 different vaccines at a time at the tender age of 2, 4, or 6 months when the brain is at a very rapid rate of growth and most vulnerable. Their brains cannot take the preservatives that are injected into them all at once. Bad things like becoming epileptic and autistic are happening much more frequently than they were even 20 years ago.
The other thing too is that vaccines are not 100%. Some are only 60% effective. Two of my family members were vaccinated against whooping cough out of the five of us, and four of us came down with it. Lab confirmed. My husband and oldest had the shot. I never got it.
Same with the flu vaccine. I feel that the preservatives used are as bad, if not worse for you, than actually getting the flu.
I know that I am of a different age group than most everyone here. I teach a class to moms of infants and small children, and I see that more and more parents are holding off on vaccinations for their children and it is becoming more of the normal thing to do. It is very rare for me to see a child having the vaccines on the schedule of the AAP.
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old243
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 09:21pm
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My wife and myself have taken the flu shot for a long time . Have never had flu, so far. Or had any adverse reaction to it. I do keep to myself most of the time. My wife is in crowds a lot more. My sister in law was really sick with what was diagnosed as shingles, a week after taking the flu shot. She won't take it again. Not sure if this caused the shingles flare up or not
I took the shingles vaccine a year ago, had no reaction. My father went through hell with shingles, hope I never get them. If you have chicken pox in the past , the bacteria is still in your body. This is a good thread it just proves that we are all different Old243
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naturelover66
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2014 11:11pm
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I support Vaccines but have never received the Flu shot. My Cardiologist INSISTED I get a pneumonia vaccine after my heart attack..... so I did. No adverse reaction.
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rayyy
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 03:05pm
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Because I work in a hospital I get one every year.It doesn't bother me.It's just a precaution.
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ErinsMom
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 04:34pm
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The health system I work for requires everyone get it unless allergic to eggs or due to religion. Must show proof of both. This applies to everyone down to the contractors working in the building.
You refuse: you are fired.
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PA_Bound
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 05:21pm
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Absolutely! The flu almost killed me once and, even though I survived, the recovery was brutal and even 25 years later I have residual effects. Anything that offers any protection from getting it again I'm all over.
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Dillio187
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 05:40pm
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nope. I don't want to be injected with mercury in any way, shape, or form.
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beachman
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 07:03pm
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Got one today. First time. My wife made the appointment. Time will tell.
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 08:14pm - Edited by: bldginsp
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Statistically, children raised in farms around livestock have superior immune systems to kids raised in 'clean' environments. That's cause their immune system is being tested frequently by the diversity of bacteria they are exposed to, and this bolsters the immune response.
Antibiotics are proving less effective than in the past as the antibiotics kill off the bacteria that are susceptible to them, leaving the field open for the bacteria that are not to flourish and proliferate.
A flu shot supposedly bolsters your immune system by exposing you to dead pathogens which trigger a heightened immune response to that specific pathogen.
Maybe what we should be doing is all that we can to bolster the immune system to the broadest range of pathogens, so that we are prepared for anything. The flu shot may keep me from getting a specific type of flu, but it doesn't help me against the unpredictable bacteria that learn to resist antibiotics. It also doesn't help bolster my immune system to a broad range of other possible flu pathogens.
I'm not against a flu shot, but it shouldn't be seen as the only way to protect against disease. The 'take a pill' or 'take a shot' approach is no substitute for making your natural immune system as resilient as possible. But drug companies don't make money telling you to eat more green vegetables and expose yourself and your children to the real world of everyday farm-variety bacteria.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2014 08:37pm - Edited by: silverwaterlady
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You do know that even a small cut exposed to manure can cause lockjaw right? If you work around animals than getting a tetanus shot and a booster every ten years should be a priority.
Since everyone here is on the Internet I strongly advise you to do some research on the flu shot via the CDC website. Single dose flu shots DO NOT have mercury in them!
Getting a flu shot in the middle of flu season is poor planning as it takes a few weeks to build up immunity. You may already have the flu! I think that is why some people think the shot gave it to them! And yes you can still get the flu even if you got the shot. It just won't be a severe case. We get our flu shots as soon as they become available.
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