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jrbarnard
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2012 07:19am
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I have a JC Higgins 12 guage, a Savage 111 30-06, and a Smith and Wesson model 25 41 MAG. Who needs more than that?
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Scott_T
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2012 02:54pm
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech I also have a Henry AR7. Its a small 22 semi auto that the parts come apart and store inside the stock that floats
I have seen a few videos posted at YouTube reviewing this rifle. Appears very reliable even after being in mud. Could be a good one to have on standby?
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Malamute
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2012 10:56pm
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Most of the comments about the AR-7's I've seen have not been favorable regarding reliabilty and often accuracy. Some seem to work alright, but bring it up on a gun forum, and you seem to get more negatives than positives. I had one years ago, interesting concept, that I think is best seen in the light of a gun you dont plan to use much, just have stored away someplace in case of your plane going down somewhere etc, but not really a replacement for a quality rifle for general use. Mine wasn't very reliable, or partricularly accurate. Enough so to get small game up close, but thats about all that I could say about it. I sold it.
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Dillio187
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2012 11:07pm
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I think the new takedown model of the Ruger 10-22 is pretty cool.
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EvoQ
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2012 11:08pm
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SW 1076 will do it all for me.
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DaJTCHA
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2012 02:31pm
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I just picked up the mossberg JIC II and the ruger 10-22 takedown, both are fairly cool!
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SamH
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2012 03:05pm
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I'm a single shot and bolt gun guy for almost all my rifle hunting guns. T/C Pro Hunters, Tikka T3s, Ruger 77s and CZ rimfires take up the most room in my safe. That said if limited to 3 bug out guns I pick my Ruger Mini 14, Remington 870 and CZ 452 22lr.
The Mini 14 and Remington 870 would both be mostly for defense, but could also be hunted with. The CZ 22lr is the most accurate rimfire I own, it would be for hunting because you easily could carry lots of ammo for it. Next on the list would be a good sidearm, Ruger GP100, but I wouldn't leave one of my first 3 picks at home to take it.
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luther
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2012 08:10pm
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All i have is my sig P226. It will have to do.
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TheWildMan
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2012 12:16pm
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bug out guns... assuming you have to bug out its a big event (katrena or chernoble catastrophy), in all likellyhood your not going to head to the back country to live off the land (unless you caused the event and the lawmans on your tail, n your makin a hasty run to Mexico). bug out is a theoretic concept that most likely has little relevance, having bug out preps are more usefull as far as putting you into a planning mindset for disaster, way of thinking is better than all the preps you can have.
unless your planning to spend years on the lam, any gun can serve to take game, but there may be better ways to get food locally in the short term (fishing and trapping? foraging?). bug out guns and prepping a bug out kit really only benefit the people selling expensive supplies that won't be used very often.
the best survival gun is the one you have at the time you need it. however in a katrena situation a lot of refugee violence broke out as starving refugees got desperate, having a gun of any kind would be a deterant and people won't see you as an easy target to steal food from.
personnally i wouldn't bother, I would make do with the best that i have at the time i need it. just last month ui missed the bus home and walked 12 miles to get there (bus didn't work on weekends and it was friday afternoon, all my friends were also out of town when i called), built a lamp out of a soda can and stuff i found on the side of the road to light my way for the 8 hours i walkined at night. if i was in need of a hunting weapon i would make a crossbow (i make them at home for target shooting fun) take a rabbit or crow or seagull easy. for personal safety i would be prepared by not going anyplace where i would need to worry.
a lot of the bug out prepper stuff is blown way out of realistic proportion and favors select markets (those expensive bug out supplies aint cheap). knowing how to do stuff is better than having stuff, living at my cabin knowin how to fix stuff and build stuff pays off.
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TomChum
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2012 01:06pm - Edited by: TomChum
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Quoting: TheWildMan a lot of the bug out prepper stuff is blown way out of realistic proportion
You got that right Wildman. I do enjoy being self-sufficient, making stuff, fixing stuff, but I don't have much hope that a crisis will be an opportunity to enjoy prepper hobbies. People will need food more than anything. Well-fed preppers today can't possibly have any idea what kind of person they will be when they've had no food for a week. It's not really stealing, when you're hungry, right? That family over the hill is killing ALL the wildlife, living OK but they have to be stopped or we'll all die !!
Food will come first, hobbies second. Hunger will ensure that. There are a hundred times more people on the continent than there were before mechanized agriculture.. People take food for granted, but it is the 'limiting reactant'.
I think initially there will be a rush to the woods. I bet lots of cabins will be taken over by city-preppers. The wildlife will quickly disappear, and since there is no food in the area, the people will leave in search of food and the cabins will be deserted. The only way food production can continue is by government operation, so most people will go to gov't feeding facilities. If you do have your own food preparation it will be like cowboys and indians. You'll be up all night guarding it, until your area is so sparsely populated nobody is remaining but you. Then one bad season or a successful raid of your storage, and you too will be at the gov't trough too.
Self sufficiency is satisfying but the 'real thing' is nothing to look forward to.
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TheWildMan
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2012 03:50pm
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Tom, I disagree about the city thing, most city dwellers would not head to the country unless it was life or death, most know nothing about the country (we in the country tend to overestimate what they might know, I had a 20 year old cousin from NYC, when he came to visit he shit his pants in fear of the giant dogs he saw in the yard, we had to tell him the difference between deer and dogs). most city folk will stay in the city, those who go to the hills with no idea how to live there would likely die quick. the exceptions are those who know where their going (like to a country cousins place), having ties to the country already. city folks would die of exposure from the weather long before starvation. and unless they are already avid hunters and willing to eat anything they won't be taking much game. the local hunters will be doing that if they can store it and not have to worry about the regulations. few city folk will recognize carrots and potatoes growing in a field, heck, most country folk i know don't even know what carrots look like without grocery store labels.
i do consider peak oil to be our biggest problem. that industrial agriculture runs on oil, without it we simply cannot produce enough food to sustain world populations. I'm not worried, even if things go bad no one will steal my food, I offered some home cooking to people at work on lunch hour a number of times, even the most open minded refused to sample anything. one friend said i eat things that would make Rambo puke (and in the Movie Rambo was said to eat things that make a billygoat puke). its surprising, but people won't eat what their not used to, even if offered food many people have starved to death refusing it if it was weird to them.
I can't figure out why they think fried burdock root and dandelion, plantain greens was bad. when these plants are in season I got gardeners willing to pay me to pull them and take them away as weeds. i love the idea of getting paid to harvest my own groceries.
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bhebby
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2012 10:31am
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Just picked up a savage 24 22 LR over 20 ga,what a sweetheart. It will perfect for eating organic.....grouse and squirrels.
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TomChum
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2012 09:08pm - Edited by: TomChum
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Quoting: TheWildMan Tom, I disagree about the city thing, most city dwellers would not head to the country unless it was life or death, most know nothing about the country
You're right, that's most. And they are overfed, not hungry. Yet. A few percent is a LOT of people, a lot of stomachs.
If that's NOT the case, why is hunting season only 2 weeks of the year,,,, when food stores are full? They're gonna eat everything that runs, and everything that doesn't.
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