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paulz
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2025 12:53pm - Edited by: paulz
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Here’s my house from the street, and a cabin work trailer. Also the worst eve corner falling in. And the lady next to me with the 20k TPO roof job, along with my roof from above.

The whole neighborhood was done same style same builder, 4 streets, maybe 100 houses. 2 houses down from me it looks like they had more pitched rafters put in, and a shingled roof. Doesn’t look like metal but I don’t know the new renters to ask anything, no habla.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2025 02:03pm
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Looks to me like the neighbor made the right choice, that peaked roof is lots better.
Get a couple estimates to do a simple version of that.

paulz
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2025 02:22pm
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Yeah that’s the best looking house around. Funny the roofing companies never mentioned doing that. I called a metal roofing guy this morning, he wanted to see a pic of the pitch which I sent, haven’t heard back.

I bought this place because my wife grew up 6 houses down and she could wheel herself over and visit her mom. When she died 5 years ago they sold the place for 1 million! It was fixed up nice. Zillow tells me mine is worth 3/4 mil. That’s Calif. coast.. I could cherry my cabin out with that. We’ve been living there mostly, just here now dealing with the roof. Plus a small city here, Costco, gas stations, restaurants. Cabin locale pretty sparse.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2025 11:17pm
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Gotta play that resale value against ALL the fix it up cost to see if you get a Return On Investment that works for you.
We are kinda in the same boat with our 'before 1900' remodeled schoolhouse home. Showing its age.....us too. I cant do the work any more and the paying for lower quality work than Id have done really hurts.

paulz
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2025 07:59am - Edited by: paulz
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Quoting: gcrank1
We are kinda in the same boat with our 'before 1900' remodeled schoolhouse home


You guys have enough room in your new cabin for full time living no? Not currently set up for it I know. Our cabin is even a touch smaller I think but we’re not cramped at alll.

Speaking of resale, I found out more about that nicely roofed house two doors down. Within the last few years it was rebuild from the wall studs up (I must have been caught up in my cabin build, don’t remember it) to the tune of 425k bucks! Good thing my dump isn’t in that photo, would ruin everything.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2025 10:08am
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Have a realtor come take a look and tell you how much they'd put it on the market for, as is/fixer-upper?

paulz
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2025 11:27am
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Having not spent a lot of winter time at the cabin, we figured we would do it this winter to see about full time living. It’s a bit scary in real bad rain/wind with all the trees and branches, and the steep gravel driveway gets a little iffy. Cabin itself is fine, water, off grid elec..

But we have 20 something years in the house, crap everywhere. Mostly cars, tools (lathe, mill, welders, lift) and bikes, most of which would fit in the cabin shop with a major reorg. Or rent a place/ sell stuff. It’s a major decision/undertaking and like you I’m getting too old and decrepit to want to deal with it. One thing for certain, having only one address to deal with/commute would be nice.

paulz
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2025 08:27am
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Quoting: DaveBell
money for a roof. Why not toss the old technology and put R40 insulation in the attic joists and a colored metal roof


I talked to a metal roofing guy a few days ago. He had me measure the slope, 1 in 12, about like a mobile home I guess. He’s looking into it, give me a quote if it’s doable.

DRP
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2025 12:34pm
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I came up with the same pitch in paint yesterday. I've not seen metal warranted under 2/12 and wouldn't do that myself. If you are going to sell it I'd go with as is first, to me it sounds like it might be a scraper to the next buyer.

We are deep in the woods, ice storm overnight, power out probably for a week or so, the Helene cleanup trucks are still here fortunately. I'm no spring chicken either, this morning started with me pulling the genny cord and then having just the handle in my hand. The propne camp stove wouldn't work so we started out, 2nd in line on the gravel road with a chainsaw, happily, the kid working had just sawed gravel. Went out, borrowed 2 gennys and got another stove and a coupla 20 lb cylinders from the job. Happily still 46 in there, I poured concrete in there Monday before the poop hit the fan. Anyway, more stuff to consider as you move away from town. I'm warmed up, off to check the neighbors.

ICC
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2025 02:06pm
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@ paulz What a dilemma situation to be in.

If I wanted to keep the house I think my preference would be to over-roof with a 3/12 minimum pitch metal roof and probably go 4/12.

If I wanted to sell the house I would look into selling it as is, before spending much money on big changes. You could do a nice metal roof-over and have a hot prospective buyer come along who hates metal roofs. Or some other thing along those lines.

If you are thinking of living full time at the cabin, I believe one must also consider age-related things, such as emergency medical access. Can our partner handle living there on their own, in case that becomes necessary?

@ DRP I hate ice storms.

The only ice I have seen here in Loreto, Baja comes out of a machine and that suits me just fine. OTOH, the forecast for Chama is for 17" of snow in the next 24 hours, which is badly needed for the drought. It is forecast to be wet snow; branches and trees will fall too. And I know of a few flat roofs there which may need some shoveling.

paulz
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2025 02:16pm - Edited by: paulz
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Quoting: DRP
pulling the genny cord and then having just the handle in my hand. The


Ha, never happens to me… when it rains it pours at the cabin, genny won’t start, fire won’t stay lift, usb crap dies constantly..

Hmm, well I’m way under 2/12 so I guess that’s out. I do have this old metal shed in the back yard that looks about the same, course it has a tarp on it.. Doesn’t snow here, only thing falling from the sky is occasional airplane.

I’m deep in the woods too. I’ve parked my gas chain saws, 2 Li powered now with spare bats.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2025 04:16pm
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If you didn't have the house address would the Powers that Be allow you to live at the cabin? I suspect that right now you are kind of under the radar and the cabin doesn't have a 'certificate of occupancy'; ie, not approved for habitation.
Ours is like that, but Ok for our stated use as 'hunting, fishing, recreational'.

paulz
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2025 08:43am
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Our cabin has a street address and mailman. I put a mailbox out for a while but took it back in since we weren’t having mail delivered there.

The metal roof guy wants to tear off the gravel, put down a membrane and then the metal, so pretty much same as the others plus the metal. Over 50k.

I still have one other bid waiting. Rain is ending so we can finally head back to the cabin and think things over.

gcrank1
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2025 09:26am
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This is all scary stuff
About 35 years ago we put on '40yr shingles', they said we were ok for another layer.....but have to do a complete tear off for the next time.
I never figured to last that long. Now that we are edging that 40yrs I probably out to get some estimates too.
Scary

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