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darz5150
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# Posted: 14 Nov 2023 08:32pm
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Duracell batteries used to be top of the line.
In the past couple years, I've had Duracell batteries corrode and ruin radios, flashlights and all kinds of devices. Anybody else notice this?
They've ruined 2 of my maglights. Even dollar tree batts are better than them.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 14 Nov 2023 08:57pm
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Yep, wont buy the expensive name brand stuff any more. I get my alky bats at the Fam Dollar store for some years now. Theyve been treating me well.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 15 Nov 2023 06:09am
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They have been crap for at least a few years. I have had the same issues with them. After I had a pack that was only a few years old and still in the packaging leak il. Ever buy them again. I get ACdelco brand or amazon when there on sale.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 15 Nov 2023 06:56am
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What's even more weird, I have Duracells still in package, about 2 years old and they have corrosion on 2 of the 4 pack D cells. WTH ? I just lost a Keyboard (two AAA's) Duracell batteries leaked some goo and rotted the terminal in the keyb. They were in there for maybe a year... 2 batteries = cheap, logitech keyboard not so much.
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FishHog
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# Posted: 15 Nov 2023 07:49am
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stopped buying duracells 5 years ago as they leak and ruin stuff. If I find a great deal on them, I sure don't leave them in anything.
Energizer don't seem to have that issue for me and that is what I use.
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ICC
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# Posted: 15 Nov 2023 09:15am - Edited by: ICC
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I have very few items that are made to use alkalines. I use the Energizer lithium primary (nonrechargeable) cells for a few, in the AA and AAA. I have never heard of any of those leaking.
Some items work well on NiMH and I use Eneloop rechargeables in them, also AA or AAA. No leaking with them either. I have nothing anymore using C or D cells.
I modded my motorized window shades to use rechargable li-ion cell battery packs instead of the AA primary lithiums.
The lithium primary have become very expensive so I only use them where cold weather performance is needed. Battery Hookup had a very special price on Energizer Lithium primary cells a while back. I bought a 50 pack for $50. Not sure if they still have them.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 15 Nov 2023 09:43am
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Quoting: Brettny I get ACdelco brand or amazon
I get those in the 48 packs.
No complaints at all.
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travellerw
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# Posted: 15 Nov 2023 11:29am
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Quoting: darz5150 I get those in the 48 packs. No complaints at all.
I just got a 100 pack of ACDelco on a stupid deal (like $20 cdn). So far no issues.
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Provolone
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# Posted: 20 Nov 2023 07:44am
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I used to swear by Duracell, but lately, I've had some bad experiences with them. Corroded batteries can be a real pain, especially when they mess up your gadgets. I've switched to other brands like Energizer, and so far, I haven't had any issues.
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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 21 Nov 2023 02:07pm
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In looking for black Friday deals a couple days ago, I saw that Duracell prices on Amazon seemed much more deeply discounted than Energizer.
I buy Energizer now because of their non-leak propaganda.
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 22 Nov 2023 08:52am
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I recently bought a big pack of Amazon 2A batteries and installed them in my Spypoint game cameras, both of them died within 3 weeks. Frustrating for sure and its not even winter yet....
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FishHog
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# Posted: 22 Nov 2023 09:14am
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Amazon batteries are OK in low usage items, they dont last near as long as quality batteries in high demand items. Even in my regular SD cameras they don't last near as long.
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Whiskerbiscuit
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# Posted: 1 Dec 2023 11:04am
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I needed some 9V batteries last week...the rack in the grocery store and the hardware store had Energizer 9Vs for like $8 CDN each, or 2 for $11. Ridiculous.
I ended up getting some from the dollar store instead (panasonic brand), and was amazed to see that rather than "made in China", the small print said "made in Belgium". I guess they have big plant there.
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paulz
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2024 02:32pm - Edited by: paulz
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Bump. Last night mid night I started hearing that annoying chirp chirp chirp. Can’t go back to sleep, no idea what’s doing it. Get up, it’s the smoke alarm. Along with the tv remote and a few tools, the last things around here with AA bats.
I’ve been buying cheapos at the dollar store or HF. HF does have more expensive ones, try those? Any name brands out there still better than the cheapos?
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darz5150
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2024 02:56pm
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I get the ac delcos from Amazon. They seem to do very well.
I get a 48 pack each of AAA & AA. But I also have a bunch of both sizes in rechargeable, that I use in the super high use lights portable radio etc.
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paulz
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2024 03:37pm
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Oh yeah, Amazon!
I do have 4 rechargeable, they are in a soldering gun I seldom use. Do they last better?
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darz5150
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2024 04:15pm
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I think most last about the same. But the high use things I use the rechargeable ones in because you can get years worth of use out of them. They are more expensive, but worth it IMO.
I recently got some Amazon basics rechargeable and they seem ok.
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Desim
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2024 02:09pm - Edited by: Desim
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This is what happened. I admire Buffett but he loves money. Wanna bet the specs are changed and the profit margin is much better while he rides the name?
Berkshire Hathaway
Through a number of corporate mergers and acquisitions, Duracell came to be owned by the consumer products conglomerate Procter & Gamble (P&G). In November 2014, P&G reached an agreement to sell the company to the international conglomeration Berkshire Hathaway through a transfer of shares.
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FishHog
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# Posted: 13 Oct 2024 09:52pm
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Quoting: Desim This is what happened. I admire Buffett but he loves money. Wanna bet the specs are changed and the profit margin is much better while he rides the name?
Probably the same reason they changed the formula for ivory soap and it no longer floats. I found out this summer when my new bar sunk to the bottom of the lake.
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paulz
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2024 01:42pm
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[quote=I found out this summer when my new bar sunk to the bottom of the lake.[/quote]
Bummer! Bad enough when it happens in the tub.
I guess they make lithium AA batteries now. Anyone use em?
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ICC
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2024 03:05pm - Edited by: ICC
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Quoting: paulz I guess they make lithium AA batteries now. Anyone use em?
There are two types of batteries. Primary and secondary, or disposable and rechargeable. Both primary and secondary can be of many different chemistries. Lithium can be present in both the primary and secondary types but in different forms. A primary battery that contains lithium will have the lithium present as a metal. A secondary battery that contains some lithium will have the lithium present as a lithium-ion. An LFP battery contains lithium as an ion but has a safer chemistry than other batteries known as lithium-ion batteries.
I used to use Energizer lithium primary (disposable) batteries. But they have been too high-priced in the past few years. Now I use EBL, a brand I buy on Amazon and they seem to perform well. These primary batteries perform better in cold temperatures than alkaline and don't leak. As well they store well for years; good to leave in a light or something that may sit for years with little or no use.
I also have a few AA secondary batteries. They have a 3.7 volt lithium-ion cell inside with a buck converter circuit to reduce voltage. As well they have a charger circuit with a built in USB-C port. They came with some small flashlights. Paleblue is a rechargeable battery brand you can buy. My brother says they work well.
Same thing for AAA, but I have not seen any usb port secondary AAA. There may be some.
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paulz
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2024 09:44pm
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Interesting, thanks ICC. I’ll order a few to try in the smoke detector. That or quit burning the coffee.
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paulz
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2024 12:45pm - Edited by: paulz
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At the Grid doing a reload, noticed these yesterday at the dollar store on the alky battery rack. Wow, lithiums have made the dollar store, sign of things to come?
Say 3v, no idea what they fit, about quarter size. Got me wondering though, if I took the two AAs out of a pencil flashlight and jumpered one of these…would it work?
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darz5150
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2024 01:45pm
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We got a couple of those for the wife's key fob.
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ICC
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2024 02:13pm
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"coin" lithium cells are meant for very low current uses such as key fob remotes, watches, calculators, the CMOS power source on a computer motherboard, etc. Many different sizes.
You could make one power a light that was meant for 2 xAA or AAA batteries. But no real advantage other than the joy of timkering.
Just FYI trivia, the numbers tell you the dimensions.
CR2025 = 20mm diameter x 2.5mm thick
CR2032 = 20mm dia x 3.2mm thick and so on.
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paulz
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2024 02:52pm - Edited by: paulz
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Ok, joy tinkerer here. I’ll leave it on and count the hours, it’s 2 led. All my other non usb lights take 3 AAs, only one I could find that takes 2.
If I remember right you said the non rechargeable lithium AAs were 1.5 volt? How do they do that?
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paulz
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2024 04:13pm - Edited by: paulz
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One hour, still going. Any bets?
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darz5150
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2024 05:34pm
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6 to 8 hours. 
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paulz
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2024 07:03pm
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Still going, 4 hours. I’ll have to try the dollar store cheapo AAAs next, in the interest of competitive fairness. I’ve already done the dollar store pizza test, Red Barron beats Tony’s hands down.
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ICC
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2024 08:26pm - Edited by: ICC
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Quoting: paulz If I remember right you said the non rechargeable lithium AAs were 1.5 volt? How do they do that?
Non-recharagble lithium metal and rechargeable lithium-ion batteries are very different. The chemistry type used in non-recharable lithium batteries, such as Energizer Ultimate lithium batteries produces 1.5 volts. Luckily that is the same voltage produced by alkaline cells.
Lithium-ion chemistry produces rechargeable cells with voltages from about 2.2 to 3.8 depending on the type of anode, cathode, and electrolyte compound. That's just the way it works out.
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A lithium metal battery contains some pure lithium. Lithium is a very light, soft, silvery metal. It is highly reactive and flammable. If dropped into water (or sprayed with water) it reacts instantly to produce hydrogen gas, caustic chemicals and heat. It will not sink and will skitter around on the surface burning.
A lithium-ion battery contains lithium that has been combined with something else; cobalt, manganese, nickel, iron, phosphate, titanate, and so on. If the naming process includes the word Oxide, there are also oxygen atoms present. The lithium-ion material can also react violently if it is dropped into or is sprayed with water.
LiFePO4 batteries are generally considered safer than lithium-ion batteries. They have excellent thermal and chemical stability. They are also less likely to release flammable gases or catch fire in the event of a hazardous event.
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FYI trivia; pure sodium, one of the components of table salt (NaCl) is also a highly reactive metal. A pellet of pure sodium dropped into water will also skitter around releases hydrogen violently and burning. Combines with chloride as table salt it is safe (except too much can be bad for blood pressure. Ain't chemistry wonderful and amazing?
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