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rockies
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2017 07:54pm
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G51BZU/ref=as_at?imprToken=BTtdWKznKWGuUBNomv4J sA&slotNum=21&ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002G51BZU&linkCode=w61& tag=smacab-20&linkId=SENYHMDCD2WZKGVX
If you don't want to install a propane heater on a wall.
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Wilbour
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2017 09:30pm
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Mine served me for two years but they do give off some co2. I just installed the direct vent on the wall but will keep my Buddy heater there for backup or for when it's really cold and I want to give the wall heater a boost upon first arrival.
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ICC
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2017 11:51pm
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Nothing really unique or special about a Mr. Heater and they fill the interior with water vapor and measurable CO2. Sure they are able to state approved for indoor use but that is only because of Corporate lobbying. Illegal in MA and Canada I believe. Same heater sold there but the instructions state not for indoor use. ... pointless post, bad as regular spam.
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DaveBell
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2017 01:42am
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Quoting: ICC pointless post, bad as regular spam
Electronic spamming is the use of electronic messaging systems to send an unsolicited message (spam), especially advertising, as well as sending messages repeatedly on the same site. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming)
I think this heater and subsequent discussion was posted a year ago. So here we go again.
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2017 09:00am
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Quoting: ICC pointless post, bad as regular spam
Disagree with that, ventless propane or kerosene heaters have their place as short-term infrequent heaters. I use one in my outhouse. But suggesting that these are equal substitutes for primary, long-term heat is dangerous. Surf google and you’ll find deaths attributed to these gadgets. Should always be stated whenever they are mentioned.
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Wilbour
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2017 11:00am - Edited by: Wilbour
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I agree with bldginsp.
I used my Buddy Heater for short term use but was spending more time there and needed something that didn't use up the oxygen, give off fumes and create a humid interior.
As a backup portable unit these are great.
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rockies
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2017 06:57pm - Edited by: rockies
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It doesn't really matter if the question about ventless propane or kerosene heaters being suitable has been discussed before. That fact remains that people are considering them now.
I post links about construction methods, products, or materials so that new members can find information and established members can offer advice and I think that's important. I also seem to be the only member doing so.
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ICC
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# Posted: 7 Nov 2017 09:48am
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I like to see mention of products that are new or have a truly new twist but I don't see the point in pointing to something like a very ordinary heater. There's always going to be newbies. We don't need a link to an ordinary Mr Heater every so often just to catch the latest newbie. At least that is my opinion.
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Wilbour
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# Posted: 7 Nov 2017 11:31am
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Quoting: ICC I like to see mention of products that are new or have a truly new twist but I don't see the point in pointing to something like a very ordinary heater. There's always going to be newbies. We don't need a link to an ordinary Mr Heater every so often just to catch the latest newbie. At least that is my opinion.
In all fairness, I too have posted information or asked questions that have been posted/asked in the past.
My take is if the information is not relevant to me, I move on to the next topic. We are all at different levels of achievement
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 7 Nov 2017 02:39pm
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I forget so many things, I need regular reminding. Where are my keys THIS time?
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Wilbour
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# Posted: 7 Nov 2017 10:03pm
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Quoting: bldginsp I forget so many things, I need regular reminding. Where are my keys THIS time?
Didn't you already say this somewhere else? 
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cspot
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2017 06:49pm
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ICC,
I disagree. Lets face it that most posts on most message boards like this have been discussed sometime in the past. Subjects like this help keep up traffic. Also it is common that someone will have some new info or a different option that wasn't discussed before.
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cspot
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2017 06:53pm
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Quoting: bldginsp Disagree with that, ventless propane or kerosene heaters have their place as short-term infrequent heaters. I use one in my outhouse. But suggesting that these are equal substitutes for primary, long-term heat is dangerous. Surf google and you’ll find deaths attributed to these gadgets. Should always be stated whenever they are mentioned.
Also I know the instructions with my buddy heater requires like 18 sq inches of ventilation when using indoors. Having to leave a window open really hurts the efficiency as well. We used one in our camper last winter (recreational use), but I didn't really like the idea. I ran 2 CO detectors just in case and opened up 2 windows for cross-ventiliation. Now with our cabin we are using a wood burner stove and I plan on putting a direct vent heater as a alternative.
Also for people using these you won't believe the amount of condensation that you will get with these especially with a small area.
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Wilbour
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2017 10:05pm
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Quoting: cspot Also for people using these you won't believe the amount of condensation that you will get with these especially with a small area.
You got that right. I was pleasantly surprised by the way my new direct vent heater warms the cabin without the humidity. Buddy would get the cabin over 80% at times
Last week it was 80% outside but 60% inside. The portable units are good a getting the chill off but have scary drawbacks.
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creeky
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# Posted: 9 Nov 2017 09:39am - Edited by: creeky
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I would like to suggest folks promoting single items try to put together comparisons or set up discussions. It does start to look like spam when single items are promoted by the same poster over and over.
That said, this is an important time of year to remind folks there's a reason that non vented propane heaters are illegal for use in homes in many countries (ie. Canada).
I have had my Mr Buddy refuse to start after it went out while heating a small building. Lots of gas. Couldn't figure it out. Took it outside to see if more light would help me spot a problem. After a couple of clicks it starts right up again. I realized it was the low oxygen sensor keeping the heater from lighting.
That would be a bad headache for someone. Luckily for me the building was unoccupied and I was just trying to warm up some equipment.
I say that as my new direct vent heater chortles away next to me. So nice to come into the studio on a crisp fall morning and start the coffee maker first and then start the wood stove.
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justins7
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# Posted: 14 Nov 2017 04:23pm
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My Big Buddy heater has been a godsend. I have a creaky, badly insulated cabin — and its helped keep the frost away (along with electric space heaters). There are small gaps in the woodwork on the cabin, and every once in a while I open up the windows for a bit, so oxygen gets in; I also have a CO2 alarm on the wall. Humidity doesn't seem to be a problem.
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