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grover
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 03:19pm
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Got word from the sawmill that the rough cut 4/4 poplar in random widths is $.35 per board ft. That is green wood.
Any thoughts on this? Wondering mostly about putting up green wood and the look of the random widths. I will have to rip the battens myself. Can the green wood go up without issues if I nail it correctly?
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VTweekender
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 04:07pm - Edited by: VTweekender
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As for the random widths, you could rip your battens from the wider boards and make them more uniform in width that way.
As for using green wood, it can be done if correctly nailed. See member Tim's build here http://www.small-cabin.com/forum/6_1456_0.html as he did his with all green wood and explains how to do it as well in his thread.
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grover
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 05:00pm
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I remember reading his thread and was impressed but there were a lot of people at the time giving him a hard time and telling him it couldn't be done and done correctly. You are right about ripping the wider boards down a little and the narrower ones could be ripped totally into battens. It's a cheap enough price but I would like to hear all the pros and cons of b&b.
My other option was the fiber cement lap siding. A totally different look but it lasts a long time.
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Martian
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 06:05pm
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Quoting: grover My other option was the fiber cement lap siding. A totally different look but it lasts a long time
If this is an option, exercise it! I have built with both, and I've repaired wood siding a lot! I will not put up wood siding if I can help it. You KNOW it is going to rot! Its not if, its when!
Tom
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 06:36pm
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IMO, green wood is not fit for building with. Doesn't even make good firewood.
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MJW
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 07:28pm
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Everyone has their own opinion about using green wood but the fact is it has been used green for a very long time with success.
As for our decision to use rough cut oak, it was based on alot of thought and investigation.
As I have said earlier, we have neighbors that used the same and after over 40 years on the house, there are no signs of rot or deterioration. It still looks like new and all they have done was stain when first installed.
I plan to let ours dry a little and treat with Thompson's just like I am doing the deck. I expect it will do fine.
Grover, here is a tip for you on the batts and wide boards. Don't waste time ripping them down. Just put up "false" batts in between where one would be if the board was not wide. Even though there might now be a crack there put up the batt anyway.
I learned that on our installation.
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OwenChristensen
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 09:12pm
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From what I was told from older carpenters and now I'm old , so this goes way back. The reason for board and batten , was so they could put it on green.
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grover
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2013 10:27pm - Edited by: grover
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What to do, what to do? Sounds like you guys are as confused as I am.
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grover
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2013 05:44pm
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My fear with the cement board is it won't look like a "real" cabin.
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2013 06:35pm
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Quoting: grover won't look like a "real" cabin.
That would depend on the eye of the beholder.... This looks like a cabin to me. Of course if one must have a clear type of finish like an oil or polyurethane / varnish finish, then cement fiber board is not for you. Wood is just plain too much maintenance for my likes. A few miles from our cabin is a development that is mostly 10-15 years old and older. Most of the homes and cabins there that used to have some sort of clear wood finish either look like hell now or are stained or painted with opaque finishes. But that is simply my observation and my preference. Have enough work keeping up a home and a cabin and outbuildings at both places.
Closer up...
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