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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2013 11:58am - Edited by: CootersShabin
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Hello, I am building a Storage Shed in the woods I'd like to share. See attached. There still is one looming item I have, and it is the idea of the walls being tied together in the open area between the two lofts. Are there any thoughts or opinions on this matter? The one picture sort of shows this open area looking up into the loft. The Distance of Open area is 12', and there are collar ties, but they are up at the 1/3 mark. It made it through a moderate winter this way without any wall splay, and I hate to put a beam there across teh walls as I think it would close in the open feeling it has for such a small building, but am I asking for trouble? (The idea of a cable later if needed seems ok, but I am leaning towards some steel outside the walls to counteract any wall bow if it were to ever happen.) Check it:
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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2013 12:05pm - Edited by: CootersShabin
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Oh, and this is in the North Eastern Lower Peninsula of Michigan. Some other pertinent specs: All Pine Construction, 3.5" X 8" Log Walls, 2.5" X 7.5" Rafters 24" O.C. and the roof deck is much thicker than normal at a full 1.75" thick (7/4).
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Cooter
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2013 12:58pm
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Looks GREAT!!! I bet you in some good hunting country!!!!
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Grandma Off Grid
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2013 01:33pm
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Sweet!
No advice but it looks great!
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MI drew
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2013 02:34pm
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I would have to say your fine with that pitch and the framing with the rest of the roof. I'm in the NW lower and have to have our roof load at 90#. Go east of i-75 and the requirements are around 30-40# depending on how far east you are. Think your walls will be just fine. It was an above winter for snow last year so it was a good test for ya.
PS. Good looking place!
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hattie
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# Posted: 2 Jul 2013 02:56pm
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Beautiful place you have there. Keep the photos coming!!!! 
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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2013 02:16pm
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Thanks for all the comments. And yes turkeyhunter, there is some good hunting in the area. It's unfortunate that there are some hoops one has get past to still build a nice Rustic Hunting Shack to better enjoy the outdoors. Had I have been forced (and crossing my fingers that this never happens) to build a legit dwelling I bet I'd be at 60K (rather than still shy of 20K) and would have less money to actually enjoy it. I read yesterday about the idea of a Permit for a Hunting and Fishing Shack; the whole State should allow this in my opinion. With the mentioned time spent there restriction, it seems like it could be easy to enforce.
I'll post some more pictures next week hopefully. I am trying to get final inspection this Friday, so we'll see how it goes...
Everyone have a Great Weekend!
Cooter
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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2013 09:44am - Edited by: CootersShabin
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Well, I am a few porches with 3' X 3' Landings away from getting final inspection. I have an extension until November, so I am good there. I just need to determine if the landings need to be at the level of the floor or if they can be one step down. Code says one step down if there isn't a door that opens out. Attached is a updated picture.
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theszabos
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2013 11:01am
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Great looking place, very similar in design to the 18x24 cabin I'm building in Colorado. I have a 16' gap between my loft support beam and the far wall. My logs/rectangular timbers are 8" tall and 6" wide, height of walls not covered by loft are goi g to be near 10'. I struggled with the roof structure/design as well and have decided to tie the open area together with two 6x8 beams to be safe. I'm hopeful the higher walls keep it from feeling closed in? Looking at your pictures and BSI g familure with Michigan winters (have cabin in Iron River and grew up near Ann Arbor), I think you're going to be just fine. Again, great place, looks like your set for October 1st and November 15th.
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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2013 10:41am - Edited by: CootersShabin
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Thanks theszabos (I went to grade school in Sterling Heights with a bunch of Szabos - BTW). I think your 10' foot walls will be great in that space without the ties making feel closed in at all.
I measured the width of my building and wrote it down the other day on a shim. This piece of cedar shim will likely be my first wall decoration to remind me to check the width every now and again. If I ever see it spreading, I am going to bolt on some steel anti-bow eave supports. If it ever moves after that, I'll add a wall-tie cable.
In other news, I have the deckway almost complete (back portion is wide enough at 5' to be considered a small deck), see updated picture.
Cooter
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cabingal3
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2013 12:29pm
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that's a beautiful homey place u have there!
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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 20 Sep 2013 02:52pm
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Hello All, I figured I'd update one last picture before we switch gears to some of the indoor stuff.
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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2015 01:51pm
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Nice Outdoor Picture in the snow received just after New Year's Day.
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BaconCreek
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2015 07:15pm
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Beautiful.
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CootersShabin
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2017 03:20pm
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Howdy everyone. Kids are getting big enough that we are finally starting in on using the lofts for more than just storage. I've begun the railing and "storage stairs" for the Main Loft, and we will be using this area for additional sleeping quarters. I'm using some leftover railing from the Exterior Porches for the center section and then will be partially enclosing the sides with leftover logs. Probably only 3 courses (maybe 4) of logs.
The steps (currently just a hole in the floor with an extension ladder section cut through) will be large rise steps, basically shelves that you climb half way to a landing, turn 90, then climb the other half. That first section will contain our storage totes, but with 6 or so inches of open space on the fronts to be used as a steps. I think the kids are going to love it!
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