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Spiker
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# Posted: 2 Apr 2017 05:39pm
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Hey Guys,

I have been thinking about this for days now, and I hoped maybe someone has an experience and can help me out.

I live in North Carolina, the weather here can change drastically, from big winds to rains to sun. I was looking for a storage shed that I can have as my small studio on my backyard.

I am on budget so I cannot afford wood, however I am looking for something like galvanized steel or vinyl. I have enough space so size is not really an obstacle, I was thinking around 10x10 or 10x12.

I want it to last long. I want to put some lightning on, put some equipment in, and work from it from time to time.

Important considerations are - wind resistant, not very noisy.

While googling around I am thinking between one of those two :
Less expensive steel:
https://cornerstoresheds.com/products/arrow-arlington-steel-storage-shed-10x-12

More expensive vinyl :
https://cornerstoresheds.com/products/duramax-woodbridge-10-5x-10-5-with-foundation

So does anyone has any experience with such sheds, and which one would you choose ? Also any other recommendations would be highly appreciated!

Thank you!

George

paulz
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 10:42am
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I'm no expert but I have both material sheds in smaller versions that I use just for storage. One thing to point out; steel bends, vinyl cracks.

Borrego
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 10:50am
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If you really need one that stands up to the winds, why don't you build something more traditional out of wood? Neither of those look very sturdy...to me at least...Plus its probably cheaper....

Spiker
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 10:54am - Edited by: Spiker
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paulz I did post similar questions on those too, but these forums seems to be more active, so I was thinking maybe people here are more knowledgable.

paulz how long does material sheds last for you ? I have a firewood ShelterLogic shed, and it is fine, however, this time around I am looking at more something where I can work from time to time.

Regarding Steel bends and vinyl cracks - I guess there is no ideal material as wood has its issues as well, and it is overall more expensive, which I cannot afford at the moment.

For me steel looks like more reliable material, however some of my neighbours are preaching about this Duramax Woodbridge they bought, so I am totally confused where to go from here....

Spiker
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 10:58am
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Quoting: Borrego
If you really need one that stands up to the winds, why don't you build something more traditional out of wood? Neither of those look very sturdy...to me at least...Plus its probably cheaper....


I was looking into wood solution, they look amazing like : (not spamming)

https://www.storageshedsoutlet.com/workshop-garden-shed-kit-sizes-8x8-to-12x24.aspx

or

https://cornerstoresheds.com/collections/wood-sheds/products/little-cottage-colonial- gable-greenhouse-kit

But 3 thousand dollars is just too much for my budget, I was not planning to go more than 1,5k. I agree none of them look ideal, but I can put heat and light there and I think it should be fine.

IF you know anywhere where there is wooden buildings for 1,5k please let me know, I would love to consider it!

Thanks for the reply!

Spiker
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 11:20am
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Cowracer I registered here because this forum seems active, I have been a reader of his form for a while, but never had a need to post.

I have been using couple other forums before, however I did not get a response from people there so I tried my luck in here. This is question of $1.5k, which is a big money for me, I want to get an opinion from different sources, from different people.

Regarding not even remotely associated - this is forum about cabins, I am looking for a studio, yes I will be using a shed for it, but I see association here.

I did my research, and found couple products, I posted them to give an idea of what I am looking for in terms of price range and in terms of material. If this is against the rules, I will be glad to remove those. However, i see lots of people posting links of cabins that there are want to buy...

If anything I did here is against the rules, I bring my apologies, and I can remove my post, however, I would still love to get an opinion about my question, because it is important for me to make a right choice!

paulz
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 11:56am - Edited by: paulz
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I just gave a vinyl Rubbermaid shed (6x8 appx.) to a friend to keep his ATV in. It was given to me so I don't know it's age or history. The panels were somewhat warped, presumably by sun, it still fit together but leaked in the rain. A few of the vinyl tangs that hold it together were broken off. I have another smaller one with vinyl shelving. The shelves won't take much weight and it too leaks because there are no eves.

I have an old metal shed that I ram my lawnmower, rototiller and whatever else I need to throw in there. You can bang anything around and worst it does is put a dent in it. Condensation, yes.

My favorite though is one of those commercial ones you see everywhere around here with 4' plywood walls and a metal roof going up from there. 8x20. It was given to me also, in the way of someone's house remodel. I hacked it into chunks and trailered it to my property. The walls are open where the metal roof overhangs the sides over the 2x4 trusses and it has a small window at one end. Everything inside stayed remarkably dry this winter. I'd probably copy that design if I needed another, couldn't cost too much.

Spiker
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 12:43pm
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Quoting: paulz
My favorite though is one of those commercial ones you see everywhere around here with 4' plywood walls and a metal roof going up from there. 8x20. It was given to me also, in the way of someone's house remodel. I hacked it into chunks and trailered it to my property. The walls are open where the metal roof overhangs the sides over the 2x4 trusses and it has a small window at one end. Everything inside stayed remarkably dry this winter. I'd probably copy that design if I needed another, couldn't cost too much.


Is there a link to the example of such shed being sold ? (8x20 shed) That maybe a good solution for me!

Thanks for reply.

DaveBell
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 07:04pm
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Spiker, Those sheds are real pieces of crap. Avoid that web site. It's a big rip off.

Spiker
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 07:42pm
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Quoting: DaveBell
Spiker, Those sheds are real pieces of crap. Avoid that web site. It's a big rip off.


Did you have any of them ? Can you please elaborate!

Gary O
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2017 10:34pm - Edited by: Gary O
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Quoting: Spiker
Did you have any of them ? Can you please elaborate!

Spam or not, the initial links show the old style storage sheds seen crumbling in back yards of trailer parks.

absolute crap

Quoting: Spiker
looking for a storage shed that I can have as my small studio

heh, the walls and door are only 6 feet high

....and I opened and read the PDF instructions on the first link.
A freaking nightmare.
Also, the price shown is not the total cost.

Build your shed, George

There is help here for that

deercula
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 07:59am
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"If you are in the market for good value, durable steel storage shed, with lots of room - look no forward - Arrow Arlington is the best candidate for you.".............This sounds like a poor translation from Asia. I pass on this!

"On top of all of that - this shed is easy to assemble, so you will be enjoying it almost instantly after it arrives to your place.

We have 2 size options available for you, please take a look at the dimensions, and choose the one that suits best for you."

Moomps
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 09:30am
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I've owned all three types of sheds - vinyl, metal and my current wood. I have a metal shed at my cabin and it's been handed down about three times - its' OK, but pretty rough shape. I wouldn't buy one of those new. My old vinyl shed was pretty good. It lasted quite a few years and looked as good as it did when I bought it. If you get one of those, make sure it includes the floor - mine was extra and well worth it. That brings my to my current wooden shed at home. I bought it from a company that built it on site. It's very well built and I think it'll last a long time. It's your choice - pay less now and replace it later or spend more and it'll last a long time.

justins7
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 02:02pm
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There are a few of these metal sheds rotting away on my land (they are at least 35 years old). The roofs cave in and the steel totally rusts through.

At least with wood you can repair/alter it easily as it ages, unlike steel which is probably more difficult and ugly to repair (unless you bolt into it or weld it back).

I have been looking for storage/workshop space as well (you can find my previous post about Shipping Containers on this forum). I've also looked into "EZ-Frame" corner bracket-type systems, which you might look into. That allows you to build a shed with just 2x2's (or 4x4's ?) with straight cuts only using a chop saw, following their plans. That will lower costs dramatically, but I think the sizes are limited.

You could also try to find a used shipping container (see same previous post). I am still debating whether or not to buy a "new" shipping container (around $3500 delivered) or have a wooden one built (up to $6000).

Spiker
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 12:36pm
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Quoting: justins7
There are a few of these metal sheds rotting away on my land (they are at least 35 years old). The roofs cave in and the steel totally rusts through.


35 years old - wow, that not bad at all, I would probably buy a new one in like 5-10 years.

Quoting: justins7
I have been looking for storage/workshop space as well (you can find my previous post about Shipping Containers on this forum). I've also looked into "EZ-Frame" corner bracket-type systems, which you might look into. That allows you to build a shed with just 2x2's (or 4x4's ?) with straight cuts only using a chop saw, following their plans. That will lower costs dramatically, but I think the sizes are limited.


EZ-Frame ? Can you please post a link where can I find more about those, this is maybe what I need

Quoting: justins7
You could also try to find a used shipping container (see same previous post). I am still debating whether or not to buy a "new" shipping container (around $3500 delivered) or have a wooden one built (up to $6000).


Unfortunately $6k is too much for me, my budget is around $1.5k thats why I am looking at "not ideal" solutions, but thats fits my budget.

Thanks for the reply!

Spiker
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 12:39pm
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Quoting: Moomps
I've owned all three types of sheds - vinyl, metal and my current wood. I have a metal shed at my cabin and it's been handed down about three times - its' OK, but pretty rough shape. I wouldn't buy one of those new. My old vinyl shed was pretty good. It lasted quite a few years and looked as good as it did when I bought it. If you get one of those, make sure it includes the floor - mine was extra and well worth it. That brings my to my current wooden shed at home. I bought it from a company that built it on site. It's very well built and I think it'll last a long time. It's your choice - pay less now and replace it later or spend more and it'll last a long time.


Moomps which brand was your vinyl shed ? This is something I would be interested in. I am looking at Duramax Vinyl shed, they seems to have pretty good reviews. But I am open to others, I did not have vinyl shed before, so it is hard for me to judge.

Also could you give me a name of the firm that build you wooden shed just for reference, and how much did it cost you ?

Thanks!

Spiker
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 12:48pm - Edited by: Spiker
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DaveBell

Can you please elaborate ? Have you dealt with them before? Prices seems to be comparable, but again, I am fine with buying in the other shop, do you know a good one you can recommend ?

Also you mentioned that sheds are crap, can you elaborate on that ? Can you recommend some that are not ? I am open to look in other places and to other sheds, but I need something constructive.

Thanks for your comment.

Spiker
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 01:04pm
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Quoting: Gary O
Also, the price shown is not the total cost.


What do you mean ? I called them up this morning, shipping is free ad no tax. I tried doing checkout and price was the same. Are there any other hidden costs I don't know about ? Please let me know.

You are right assembly instructions is hard to follow, but so in all of the ones I have seen, so I think it something I can live with.

NorthRick
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 02:42pm
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Quoting: Spiker
What do you mean ? I called them up this morning, shipping is free ad no tax. I tried doing checkout and price was the same. Are there any other hidden costs I don't know about ? Please let me know.


You need to provide your own floor.

Spiker
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 06:34pm
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Quoting: NorthRick
You need to provide your own floor.


Vinyl one comes with foundation, but yes I would put stuff on top of it anyways.

DaveBell
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 06:40pm - Edited by: DaveBell
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I set a trap. He took the bait.
Gary and Northrick baited him again.
Again he took the bait.

SPAM

Spiker
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2017 06:46pm
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Quoting: DaveBell
I set a trap. He took the bait.
Northrick baited him again.

SPAM


If the fact that I did my research that I need to assemble these sheds and provide my own floor is a spam - then you are "genius mastermind trap setter" (sarcasm). ))) I already wrote about this before and I not going to repeat myself.

By the way (here comes the big secret) if this topic is not of interest to you, just don't read it.

I on the other hand - am very interested in finding answer to the question, and appreciate everyones feedback.

Gary O
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2017 06:42am
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George, yer budget of $1500 could easily yield enough materials to get you dried in if…you build it yourself.
And if you cannot build it yourself, well, who’s gonna put those weeny metal or vinyl sheds together?

Now, in consideration of SPAM or not, we’re a tad gun shy when a new member posts links right outa the gate.
And, I’ve noticed an uptick in Spammer dialogue efforts on other sites.
So
Forgive us
Or
At least flip it over to grill the other side

Great

…..hungry now

Quoting: Spiker
If the fact that I did my research that I need to assemble these sheds and provide my own floor is a spam - then you are "genius mastermind trap setter" (sarcasm). ))) I already wrote about this before and I not going to repeat myself. By the way (here comes the big secret) if this topic is not of interest to you, just don't read it.


Not much of a friend winning new member effort, George

Moomps
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2017 09:34am
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Quoting: Spiker
Moomps which brand was your vinyl shed ? This is something I would be interested in. I am looking at Duramax Vinyl shed, they seems to have pretty good reviews. But I am open to others, I did not have vinyl shed before, so it is hard for me to judge.Also could you give me a name of the firm that build you wooden shed just for reference, and how much did it cost you ?


The vinyl one I had was a Duramax from Menards. As for the wooden one I have now, the price has gone up, but I checked and the 8x14 one I have is now about $2800 installed on your site. Mine came from the Shed Shop in St. Paul, MN. Great company - they use high quality wood and take care of everything. You just need to make sure you get any permits that might be required.

justins7
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2017 03:55pm
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I think people are being unfair to George. (I'm a new member as well, BTW)
It's pretty clear by his answers that he's not pushing any products.

Now I don't want this link to be seen as spam. It's for the EZ-frame system. I haven't used it, and I am now hesitant because the brackets are made out of plastic (so they won't last that long). But it seems like all you need are these brackets and plans (they come together), 2x2's and a chop-saw (or hand saw I guess). Look on youtube as well — there are videos.

http://www.ezframeup.com

Also, George, the rotting metal sheds on my land (which I mentioned earlier) were put there by the previous owner sometime in the early 80's. At this point the vinyl parts are just garbage, and I am attempting to see what can be salvaged of the rusting hull.

creeky
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2017 05:18pm
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Building your own shed is always cheapest.

For an 8x8 what would you need? 2x4s. 10-11 sheets of plywood. Some paint. Roofing. Hammer. Nails.

And tonnes of plans online. Your costs would be under 1k.

I have a duramax vinyl bought back in my suburban days. Its, wow. 8-10 years old now. Still looks like new. I did build a little pt 2x4/waterproof ply deck for it to sit on. Keeping it level. After the second move it wanted to sag. But I braced it and it eventually settled in.

I built custom wood shelving. Outta 2x4s and metal pipe. Adjustable hanging brackets. I got the plans out of some woodworking magazine. Keep everything solid I screwed thru the vinyl to 2X4s on the other side of the wall. ya it's not that good looking. But I hang tool hooks on the outside 2x4s. So doubles the storage for outdoor tools, toys.

The vinyl sheds do look good. All purty like.

Is it me? Weather seems a bit wet around here lately. Lookin' for some sunshine.

Spiker
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2017 12:59pm
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Quoting: Gary O
George, yer budget of $1500 could easily yield enough materials to get you dried in if…you build it yourself.
And if you cannot build it yourself, well, who’s gonna put those weeny metal or vinyl sheds together?


Thanks for the reply Gary, why I like the idea of shed kits is that everything is there already I just need to assemble, whereas If I want to create my own shed - I need to architect it, source materials etc, which could be bit of a pain. But If $1500 can get me there, I guess thats another option!

Spiker
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2017 01:02pm
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Quoting: Moomps
The vinyl one I had was a Duramax from Menards. As for the wooden one I have now, the price has gone up, but I checked and the 8x14 one I have is now about $2800 installed on your site. Mine came from the Shed Shop in St. Paul, MN. Great company - they use high quality wood and take care of everything. You just need to make sure you get any permits that might be required.


Oh cool, so you have experience with Duramax sheds, would you recommend similar shed to someone who is looking for affordable option ?

Thanks for the reply

Spiker
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2017 01:07pm
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Quoting: creeky
Building your own shed is always cheapest.

I agree its just more overhead. I am optimistic about the idea that someone will deliver all the materials to my doorsteps. But I will look more into it!


Quoting: creeky
I have a duramax vinyl bought back in my suburban days. Its, wow. 8-10 years old now. Still looks like new. I did build a little pt 2x4/waterproof ply deck for it to sit on. Keeping it level. After the second move it wanted to sag. But I braced it and it eventually settled in.


Good to know, Druamax is one of two I am looking to buy!

Thanks for the feedback!

Spiker
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# Posted: 3 May 2017 02:31pm
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Thanks everyone for their feedback, I just bought Duramax Woodbridge 10 x 10 (that I have asked about in my first post), should be delivered this week, very excited!

Thanks again for all the feedback!

P.S. I guess we can close this thread

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