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carcrossguy
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# Posted: 20 Jan 2012 04:41pm
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I have two nice creeks flowing through my 25 acres. Do I need a license to take water? this is bc, canada.

temp
# Posted: 20 Jan 2012 04:49pm
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Yes, you need a water license from the BC Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations, but why bother get a license, no one is going to check.

Just
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# Posted: 20 Jan 2012 07:11pm
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IN ONT . I OWN THE CREEK BOTTOM BUT NOT THE WATER IN THE CREEK.THIS TOWNSHIP PHOTO THE LOT LINE IS CLEARLY IN THE WATER.WE ARE ALOWED TO TAKE 10000 GALONS A DAY WITHOUT A PERMENT.
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simon
# Posted: 20 Jan 2012 09:57pm
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I own the creek at the back of the lot, and have timber, and mineral rights. Don't know about water.. Going to check into that. Thanks for the post.

hattie
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# Posted: 21 Jan 2012 01:12am - Edited by: hattie
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We are on the Tulameen River in B.C. We found out from our Area Rep. just this week that because this is part of Columbia River system which flows into the States, you need a water license to take water out of the river. This has come as a shock to many locals here. If your river connects to the United States, you might want to look into it.

perpetualsummer
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2012 04:02pm
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I've got some rain in my rain barrels. It came from the sky. I wasn't that great at science but I think the teacher said something about evaporation, condensation, create clouds often resulting in rain. How do you know if the rain clouds that form are a result of evaporation from the earth in U.S. or Canada. Do you think the government might find a way to tax us on that?
Maybe one day I'll have to get a permit to use the rain that was collected in my rain barrel, because it fell from the clouds that MAY have been created from the earth in the U.S.... to water my garden?
Sorry for the rant, just really fed up with regulations.

MikeOnBike
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2012 05:34pm
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I think at least Colorado, Utah and Washington have laws restricting the collection of rain water.

Bzzzzzt
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2012 05:52pm
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Quoting: MikeOnBike
I think at least Colorado, Utah and Washington have laws restricting the collection of rain water.


My girlfriend has a childhood friend who lives in Colorado and she was telling me yesterday that her friend told her it was illegal to collect rain water and it was some 150 year old state law that had to do with cattle watering rights. Her friend told her that she had a rain barrel for watering her grass and didn't feel any problems were going to arise from it but that it was technically illegal.

MikeOnBike
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2012 05:53pm
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Looks like things are changing in Colorado.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/us/29rain.html

AYP1909
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2012 06:12pm
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The waters of Washington State collectively belong to the public and cannot be owned by any one individual or group. Instead, individuals or groups may be granted rights to use them. A water right is a legal authorization to use a predefined quantity of public water for a designated purpose. This purpose must qualify as a beneficial use. Beneficial use involves the application of a reasonable quantity of water to a non-wasteful use, such as irrigation, domestic water supply, or power generation, to name a few. An average household uses about 300 gallons of water per day.

State law requires certain users of public waters to receive approval from the state prior to using water - in the form of a water right permit or certificate. Any use of surface water (lakes, ponds, rivers, streams, or springs) which began after the state water code was enacted in 1917 requires a water-right permit or certificate.

Likewise, withdrawals of underground (ground) water from 1945 onward, when the state groundwater code was enacted, require a water right permit or certificate – unless the use is specifically exempt from state permitting requirements. While "exempt" groundwater uses are excused from needing a state permit, they still are considered to be water rights.

AYP1909
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2012 06:21pm
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Washington Rainwater Policy:
http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wr/hq/rwh.html

perpetualsummer
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2012 07:02pm
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Quoting: Bzzzzzt
illegal to collect rain water

WoW. I was being sarcastic, I had no idea this was real. But then...

http://www.bluegold-worldwaterwars.com/

carcrossguy
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2012 05:44pm
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In BC, you dont need a license for domestic use. Most people get a licence because the creek can run out of licences. environment canada looks after the quality of the water. the licence is only for volume.
Not sure if someon can pollute the water with cattle. i assume not.

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