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darz5150
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2016 09:35pm
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Does anyone know what kind of snake this is? I live in the Midwest and am not really sure. It seems like we have a lot of snakes this year.
One pic shows the top, and the other the bottom. I don't think the eyes had the slit pupil. But not sure.
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rockies
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2016 11:02pm
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Asher
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2016 11:05pm
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Either that's a really close shot or its a bull King pairie snake... It's got a name something like that.. It's the biggest snake in mo.. Not poisonous, don't kill em..

darz5150
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2016 11:59pm
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Thanks for the help.
Asher the pic of the snake on the stick was from about 2 feet away, and the stick is a 1 inch wooden dowel, so the snake was probably 2 to 3 inches in diameter. The stump that we put it on for the picture is 29 inches. So the snake was at least 4 feet long. Normally I try not to kill anything that we can't eat. After all since we live in the woods, I believe that I am the outsider that's invading their neighborhood.
Some people have asked if moth balls will repel snakes. When I first spotted this snake in the morning, I didn't kill it. I spread moth balls around the spot where I saw it, and also around the cabin. Later that afternoon the snake moved away from the mothballs and relocated to the top of the only stack of fire wood that we keep close to the cabin, so I was forced to decide whether to kill the snake or throw the remaining mothballs at my hysterical wife......sooooo since a had a machete handy and only a handful of mothballs left... I'll bet you know what came next. LOL

Don_P
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2016 07:05am
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Look up corn snakes while you're at it.
I've run into rockies scarlet king snake one time, that'll give you pause. The saying I was brought up with was "red next to yellow will kill a fellow" for a coral snake.

Asher
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2016 09:29am
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I understand...

A little advice.. Do NOT throw moth balls at your wife.. If she can get as mean as mine... Take those moth balls and put them in a paint ball gun, because once you "poke the bear" you will need something with lots of fire power and quick follow up to allow you time to retreat...

Snakes do not like oils, it messes with their skin.. someone told me cooking oils have pretty good results..

I didn't know Missouri had a snake so big until about 20 years ago... My dad and I where wading in waste deep water to check out his river cabin during a minor flooding... One of these was hanging out on a log beside the cabin... (I just thought it was another log), once we got about 50ft from it, it spooked and hit the water coming on our direction... It wasn't after us, just confused and trying to get away... 90% of the snakes in that area where aggressive cotton mouths, so I immediately took action... Left pops behind (every man for himself), Jesus would have been proud of the way I was walking on top of the water and heading for high ground on the cabin stairs... At the time I was pretty sure that was a morf'd monster; a clone of a anaconda, snake fish, with a dragons head breathing fire, the tail of a sting ray that was loaded scorpion venom, and covered in black window spiders...

That was until I ran across a picture of it on the MO conservation web site...

http://nature.mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/field-guide/bullsnake-bull-snake

RichInTheUSA
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2016 09:42am
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I see snakes fairly often at my cabin and have joined the "Snake Identification" group on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=snake%20identification

They advocate not killing snakes... but they also advocate teaching people to identify snakes, without shaming people if they already killed the snake before posting.

There is also a group for Q&A: https://www.facebook.com/groups/snakeED

I've found this to be handy for deterring snakes: http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/livingwith_wildlife/snakes/deterring.html

Hope it helps.

creeky
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2016 12:34pm
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Cool. I saw a northern water snake this year. my first!
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Smawgunner
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2016 10:59pm
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I used to kill snakes of any kind when I was a kid. Then I got educated about the benefits. Now I would never think of killing a snake. In Ohio, there are only three types of venomous snakes and two of those you'll likely never run across because they're almost extinct. The other (copper head), is rare and not aggressive unless cornered or stepped on. I can't say I've ever read of someone dying of a snake bite in my state ever.

RichInTheUSA
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2016 07:23am
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Quoting: rockies
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According to the Snake identification forum, the saying "red touches yellow...." saying does not always hold true. it's generally correct, but not 100% and therefore should not be trusted.

FishHog
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2016 04:28pm
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Quoting: creeky
Cool. I saw a northern water snake this year. my first!


I've seen 2 at my new place. Luckily Mrs Fishie hasn't or I'd never get her swimming again.

Purplerules
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2016 09:07am
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We're in Texas and have seen more snakes close to the cottage and cabin this year then the first 3 years we have been here.
Not sure if it is all the water we have had this year, so far all have been none poisonous.

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