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Smawgunner
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 06:36pm
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http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/field-notes/tennessee-officials-confirm-first-cou gar-sighting-in-100-years?dom=fas&loc=hottestblogs&lnk=tennessee-officials-confirm
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RichInTheUSA
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 06:54pm
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These are not "officially confirmed" by the respective game & wildlife agencies.... The one in VA was on my property. 
West VA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zobo93Z8O8I
VA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXA1_DTlF_E&index=1&list=PL5XClUR486m9zXrTeRcybmmpM51 lyn6AP
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 08:04pm - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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Rich, we have loads of those, in fact, we have loads of wolves now too and fish and wildlife is downplaying those also. They are trying to hold off as long as they can. Just this last deer season, a buddy of mine was with a group of guys hunting deer. Most buy the tag that allows them a deer, cougar and a bear. Its a good value.
Well, in the group, there was 4 cougars keeping an eye on all of them, they shot 3, and the 4th almost. The big cats were either stalking or just shadowing the guys.
We never had an issue with cougars as long as we hand hound hunting. They stayed away from mankind. Now it was banned back in 1995 and cougars are everywhere. Cities, parks and attacking people, animals etc.
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 08:50pm
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They shoot half a dozen or more a year near my place, because they are going for livestock and the occasional puppy snatched off someone's porch. This is Northern California mountains. If you folks in Tennessee want more cats, please, come get them.
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RichInTheUSA
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 09:01pm
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According to game Game & Inland fisheries officials, the big cats have not been "officially" spotted east of the Mississippi in over 100 years.
So while this is not a big deal for you all in the west... this is big for us folks in the east.
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old243
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 09:02pm
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The mnr in Ontario don't think they exist here. I know of 2 that have disappeared, lately. Under the 3 S plan. old243
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 09:16pm
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Quoting: old243 The mnr in Ontario don't think they exist here. I know of 2 that have disappeared, lately. Under the 3 S plan. old243
Yes, the old SSS plan or also know as the 3S, ie shoot, shovel and shut up. Maybe that is why they havent been spotted. They are not looking underground. 
The old locals around the cabin alwasy gut shoot the wolves. That way, they can still go a long ways away before they die. Many have heart monitors as they watch the packs.
The strawberry pack is near my cabin.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/
We have cougars and bobcats there too.
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 10:11pm
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toyota_mdt_tech
Holy crap, those are big "kitties." Look at the size of those paws! 
What do you do with them after you kill them? Taxidermy? Pelts?
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 10:31pm
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Bbq?
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pizzadude
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2015 11:24pm
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Seems to be more cougar sightings all around the country in the recent past.
On the last day of deer season here in northern Minnesota, I got off my deerstand at 10am to make my brother in law a small drive, he had just seen a glimpse of a large buck and couldn't get a shot before it headed into the swamp and out of sight.
The drive I made was unsuccessful. We ate lunch and headed back into our stands for the final evening hunt.
On the way into my stand I came across a set of tracks I couldn't identify. The tracks ran perpendicular to my trail, then followed my trail for a short distance, then headed off into a surrounding swamp.
Sometime between 10am and 2pm.
Round track, little bigger than softball size. Since no claw marks were left, I can only assume it was a large cat of some sort.
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2015 12:05am
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LOL! Or the ultimate "gato tacos."
When I lived on the Border, the locals used to tease me when I'd go across to Mexico for lunch, not to eat in El Mercado because I could inadvertently be eating "gato tacos."
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2015 08:55am
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Here in the SF area, there are a lot of 'carnicerias', or Mexican meat markets. I joke that they sell all the parts of the animals that they don't sell at Safeway. But gato? O perro? No se.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2015 09:07am
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Quoting: Julie2Oregon toyota_mdt_tech Holy crap, those are big "kitties." Look at the size of those paws! What do you do with them after you kill them? Taxidermy? Pelts?
They are big and powerful animals. You dont realize how big till its compared to a full size man. They have enough power to kill a man, easily, unless you are armed, you'd have no chance.
They were not hunting cats, the cats were hunting them. All 3 were shot same day, one other got away. I dont know what they did with them, I know they didnt let them go to waste. I will have wife of one, she works with me. See what happened to them. They were shot up near the little ghost town of Chesaw Washington. A 4th was shot at but missed. They suspect it was parents and 2 siblings
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SouthParkMark
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2015 07:58pm
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While I've never taken a cat, my father-in-law has and I can say hands down it was some of the best wild game I've tasted (mule, antelope, whitetail, close call on elk, much better than my mountain goat). I'd never let that meat go to waste, close tasting to pork actually and not much gamey flavor - tastes great in a green chili or just grilled....however in CO without dogs and a decent snow to track, getting one is very tricky.
I have been on a backpack trip in the Wind River range of WY and heard them scream, very spooky, hope to never see one in person without some protection on me.
-Mark
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Salty Craig
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2015 10:01pm
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I tink I taw a puddy tat
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2015 02:35am
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toyota_mdt_tech
Yeah, I've read about PNW wildlife and I'm far more leery of the cats than bears. Cats stalk you and would jump you from behind in an attack. I won't be walking around the mountain without my little Beretta. And I'll have to keep a close eye on my dogs.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2015 09:04am
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Julie, yes, this applies to you in your location in Oregon too. Cats are pretty skittish, but hungry, not so much. Yes, pack the heat.
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manny
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2015 11:41am
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Here i NewBrunswick Canada they tell us there aren,t any cougars . Lot of people say they seen them , myself included. However the DNR tell us they dont exist. Then they say not to shoot them if we do see any. They also tell us there aren,t any wolfs . but a fellow shot a very large wolf here a couple yr,s ago.That was in the paper
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2015 02:14pm
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Well if they aren't there I guess it makes sense not to shoot them, unless you like shooting at hallucinations.
In Tasmania there is a supposedly extinct carnivorous marsupial called the thylacine, or Tasmanian tiger. Though supposedly extinct since the 1920s, there have been numerous sitings over the years. But, if they still are there, that would mean that logging old growth forest would have to be curtailed or ended because it is their native habitat. In Tasmania, the logging industry has a lot of political influence. So acknowledging the existence of the tigers is controversial.
I wonder whose interests might be threatened if indeed large cats are returning east of the Mississippi.
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