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justinbowser
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# Posted: 29 Oct 2018 11:54pm
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The antique Vesper was physically too big so that's out but was a really cool looking old stove - very ornate. But, while I was waiting to look at it I stumbled across the Drolet Pyropak which claims to be for 250 - 1000 sq ft. I can order it from HD for $599 so I think that's what we've settled on. The Aspen was physically a bit smaller but not by much.
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creeky
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# Posted: 22 Nov 2018 10:38am
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That Drolet looks very nice. They're a good stove mfct by all accounts. And great price.
My neighbor has one of the old parlour stoves in his workshop. It works very well and the tall shape does keep the footprint down. Feeding through the top is easy and it gives you a hotplate to boil water or whatever.
I used an older stove that I lined with extra brick to make it smaller inside. This has worked well for 8 years. As a much older stove (1980s) I do yearn for glass air wash so I can watch the fire.
My studio is 240 sq ft. I have cooked myself out a few times.
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justinbowser
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# Posted: 25 Nov 2018 08:59pm
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We went up to the cabin Thanksgiving week and dragged the Pyropak inside built a 6" high elevated hearth using 2x6, 3/4" plywood, and ceramic tile. I unboxed the Dura Vent through-wall kit and got stuck as the contents didn't really match up with what was in the instruction drawings. Needless to say we didn't get it set up and/or tested.
I watched through some installation videos today of parts that match mine so I think I have a better handle on it and will hopefully finish the install next trip up. Too bad it's 300 miles away, makes doing anything twice as complicated.
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Mindrasect
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2019 04:55am
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In case you require a wood stove to warm your cabin medium-term, you will require the best firebox you can hold up under, cash and space-wise. You'll in like manner require an approach to move the air inside the hotel and possibly think about ventilation for when the stove is turning out an extreme measure of warmth.
The Blaze King Princess is an outstandingly standard stove for little cabins or go on some review sites like https://sortedforyou.com/best-wood-stoves. The synergist start shape mulls over a long medium-term devour. Looking on this and changed exchanges you will find a lot of suppositions and experiences with various stoves, and genuinely in all likelihood any of the forefront stoves will work okay in your application. Regardless, despite everything I can't see anyone delineate a terrible inclusion with the Princess. It simply is apparently a best fit for the little cabin application.
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FishHog
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2019 07:08am
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Well that last post cleared up all the confusion
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rockies
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2019 08:28pm
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Thank you Mindrasect!
I'd worried endlessly about "The synergist start shape mulls over a long medium-term devour".
Hmm. "Mindrasect" Wasn't he the Incan God of wood stoves?
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Mtnviewer
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2019 11:46pm
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The Drolet in our log cabin is a poor joke. It looks big, but the inside is small. Firebox is too small to burn more than a few hours or less in winter, the stupid firebox sits at door level or higher so ash, hot coals & logs can & do fall out. The small firebox requires too frequent cleaning of ash build up. Wasted heat goes up the chimney at a rapid rate as does the pollution of unburned smoke. I could go on with what a useless purchase of garbage this Drolet was & is in real world winter use. In the house we use a Blaze King & it is everything better & SUPERIOR to what the Drolet piece of garbage is not. And it is extremely long burning, never needing more logs in the middle of the night. Large, deep firebox that is safer & requires far less frequent ash removal, once every 2-3 months. Superior clean burning & safer & a huge help for us older folks as it produces more heat from less wood.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2019 02:22am
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😜😆🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔𠟌²ðŸŒ²Thank You for clearing that up Mindrasect🌲🌲
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justinbowser
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2019 05:51pm
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Sounds like a machine translation from a Chinese operator's manual...
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Mtnviewer
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2019 10:14pm
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Pretty Sad, BS "Christisn" Xmas spirit crap of peace on earth & goodwill toward men, not even 2 weeks old & intolerance & bullying is still well & alive against someone who writes a couple of paragraphs. What a lovely community .... That writing was easy to understand compared to the insults that followed & most of what is called "English" these days by "rural folk".
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FishHog
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2019 08:11am - Edited by: FishHog
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Mtnviewer, you do realize the post were having fun with is just a spam post, not a serious one don't you?
Relax, were just poking fun at crap being posted to try try to get you to buy something, that has no place on this forum.
I for one can't stand spam or telemarketers. But feel free to click on those spam links all you want if that's your thing.
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95XL883
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2019 09:32am
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To me, the sad part of the Mindrasect post is that some may think poorly of Blaze King. Whether Mindrasect's post is spam (looks like it to me) or an attempt by someone who doesn't speak English to join the conversation, I suspect most readers would be very suspicious of the Blaze King Princess.
I don't have any Blaze King products and I'm not associated with that company. But from what I have read on Hearth.com, Blaze King has a very good reputation both for quality of the product and customer service. The trade-off is cost. It is an expensive stove. Among its users, it appears to have a very loyal following. The other point I want to make is the Princess is not a small space stove. I don't remember the exact spec but it is meant to hear somewhere around 2,000 square feet.
I just hate to see what is apparently a good product get smeared by a post.
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2019 08:32pm
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Hmm. Well first of all my paternal Grandmother never learned to speak or read English even though she lived in the USA for decades.
She was a old fashioned European Grandmother. Forever dressed in black mourning clothing. She told my Mom (when she tried to make a sandwich for my Dad before they were married) it was her job to take care of her family. Her kitchen was her domain.
So I would be the last person to EVER criticize anyone for their lack of English proficiently.
It's really obvious that this person is a spammer since it is their first post here. They even made up a fake profile.
We do not like spammers here.
I like to toy with them.
I don't think it makes me a bad person.
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Whiskey Jack
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2019 10:30pm
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We've been using the cubic grizzly in our 108 square foot bunkie for over a year now. It is honestly over sized. We would have done well with the cub. In super cold weather (-40) I have to get up once in the night to relight the fire. During weather above -15, we will light it around 8pm, and we're good for the night.
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woodspirit
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2019 02:05pm
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do all new stoves use electric blowers? I'm having a hard time finding info online. I don't have electricity and cabin is only 500 sq feet
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ICC
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2019 02:40pm
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On the one hand we should never make fun of someone just because they mangle the English language. Often that indicates they speak and write some other language(s) as well and that English is simply a second or third language. There are more than enough people in the US who mangle English and they were born here, went to school and speak no other language.
But Mindrasect does appear to be a spammer, and spammers deserve disrespect.
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rockies
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2019 06:01pm
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I think, rather than them being actual people sitting down and trying to write out a sentence or paragraph in English that their posts are simply statements written in their native language that have been auto translated by a machine.
When they can't even bother to take the time to spam us in person.....tsk tsk.
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woodspirit
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2019 11:49am
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blowers in New wood stoves?
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littlesalmon4
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2019 02:00pm
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For the record the Blaze King Princess is an outstanding woodstove.
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woodspirit
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2019 02:54pm
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I found out that even if stoves have blowers, you don't need to put them on.
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woodspirit
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2019 03:56pm
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I think I've decided on the Vogelzang defender. it doesn't have a catalytic whatever on it which would need replacing every two or three years. Those (parts) would cost more than the stove to replace. Funny how the only ones to profit by new mandated govt regulations are the manufacturers and stores that sell this crap. I want to to toss wood into a stove and burn it for heat. Not buy tools to tell me the moisture content and have to build a fire a specific way and go online to figure out how the dam thing works. The whole point of a cabin and living off grid is to get away from gun totin Barney Fifes watching over me when i take a shit or roast hot dogs. Remember when cars didn't have seatbelts but they had ashtrays and cigarette lighters? we survived sleeping in the back window of dads car. Not wearing a helmet on the playground or on a bike. We didn't need bicycle lanes in a park, or $1000 to catch a fish. When the grid goes down and theres 3 feet of snow on the ground all i need is my cabin, a warm fire, home cooked meals and no need of a flush toilet or water bills.
I figured this post had already gone off topic a little already Oh and I do speak English, Waray and Tagalog too....
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ICC
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2019 04:29pm - Edited by: ICC
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Quoting: woodspirit Remember when cars didn't have seatbelts.............
Sure do. 
I have also had friends die in auto accidents when they drove without a seat belt and died because they were ejected through the windshield. The last one I remember wasn't even going all that fast; in the suburbs and screwed up a turn on a slippery road, nose first into a shallow ditch, hit the mouth of a culvert and went through the glass. His death was completely preventable had he worn the seat belt his pickup came with.
Motor vehicles deaths per billions of miles traveled and per hundred thousand population have gone down a lot since belt use became law. Some saved lives may be due to other vehicle improvements, sure, but just the simple fact that you are not ejected should make one think that wearing a belt is a good idea.
Seat belts do save lives. Why not wear one and live longer? Most of all your loved ones will (likely  ) be happier if you survive an accident rather than die.
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woodspirit
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2019 04:45pm
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my dad was 17 when he found himself sleeping on the ground on tinian during a monsoon fighting japanese. he lived. also fought in Korea in the marines. The world is full of horror stories and most aren't prevented by govt intervention. My point is People have survived since the dawn of man. Way before govt regulations. I've known lots of people who've died in freak accidents who were doing everything right. I knew a drunk who hit a natural gas well, not wearing a seatbelt whose pickup was thrown through the air flipping as it went. Got out, walked to a friends house...not a scratch. As for myself, I'd rather dispense of worrying if I build a fire outside and cook dinner on it. Most laws are created by govt aren't for the benefit of people as much as they are to benefit special interests.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2019 09:52pm - Edited by: darz5150
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[quote=woodspirit]whole point of a cabin and living off grid is to get away from gun totin Barney Fifes watching over me when i take a shit or roast hot dogs.
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beachman
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2019 08:21am
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There are a ton of great stoves out there. Pacific Energy makes a fine stove but pricey. We have a PE Vista - small but powerful and heats the place just fine.
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justinbowser
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2019 01:31pm
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Just got back from spending 8 days at our cabin and really feel refreshed! It rained half the time but there was finally enough decent weather to cut a hole in the wall and install the DuraLast Thru-Wall flue kit and a little piece of stack. Glad to get that job out of the way!
Saturday morning it got down into the high 20s and the Drolet stove worked great. About 8:00 PM Friday evening I started a fire and after getting a decent coal bed I put on an 8" log and after getting it flaming throttled the stove down and went to bed. Saturday morning all that was left was ash but the stove was still warm and the inside temp was about 68 degrees.
I am very pleased with the way it performed and once I get the hang of getting a hot fire started quickly I think the amount of interior smoke will be manageable. I think I will get a propane "blowtorch" like I use to fire off the wood in my smoker and use it to start the stove. I think that will introduce enough heat to get a good draw started.
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justinbowser
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2019 09:02pm
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Sorry, can't edit the above but the Flue kit and stacks were "Duravent" and seemed to be very good quality.
Here's a pic of the first fire...
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Brettny
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2019 11:46am
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If your having trouble getting a draft going..get your fire built but not lit. Stuff a piece of news paper in the chimney hole at the back of the stove. Light the paper and fire at the same time, close the door. Through the wall chimneys are notorious for bad drafts and alot of cresote build up.
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justinbowser
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2019 01:38pm
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The fire started quickly and a good draft started almost immediately but I still got a little smoke in the room. Once I get the hang of it I think all will be OK. I use one of the propane blowtorches to light my smoker so I am think I will do the same for the stove.
On my through wall installation I used two 45 degree elbows and 2' of pipe instead of a 90 degree elbow.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2019 02:29pm
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Two 45* is prob the best way to go through the wall.
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