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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2016 07:06pm
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http://wisewaypelletstove.com/ct-menu-item-1.html
Found a glowing mention (see what I did there?  ) of this pellet stove when I was researching them. It's made in Medford, Oregon. Not the prettiest thing, LOL, but not as huge as it looks in the pics. It stands a bit over 4 feet tall.
This stove is non-electric and gravity-feeds the pellets. A bit pricey but pretty much in line with what pellet stoves cost. The install is like that of a wood stove so there's no savings there. Without an electric blower, I'm not sure how much improved the heat distribution would be. And, of course, there's the cost of the pellets. The biggest advantage I can see right off is that it's a pellet stove, so you can load it up and it will keep the cabin warm for a few days on its own.
But maybe I'm missing something. Is anyone familiar with the Wiseway?
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Coyote Flats
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2016 07:20pm
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Hi Julie
I did lots of research over the years on the wise way. I was going to put one in my greenhouse. They would be cheaper than a wood stove in regards to chimney. If your in Oregon you maybe able to get your pellets in bulk which is a lot cheaper. I would imagine they make soft wood pellets in your area. I read lots of reviews years ago and they weren't positive but reviews are a lot better today. I believe they worked out all the bugs If you get one let me know how it works
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2016 08:07pm
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Coyote Flats
Would it be cheaper, regarding the chimney? I read the installation instructions and it stated the chimney should be at least 15 feet for it to work properly, which is what the instructions for the wood stove on my list state. They don't recommend going through the wall and just having a little pipe, like you can do with other pellet stoves that have electric motors involved.
The Wiseway is interesting. They also do smaller, much less expensive camping versions. Maybe that's the one you're thinking about? It seems as though the company's market is aimed at off-grid folks like us!
The model I posted above is $2K. The similar one without the fire window is $1900.
I thought they're worth a look and could be of value to some in the forum. Besides, I like to see what Oregon companies are offering! This one isn't that far from my property!
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Coyote Flats
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2016 09:09pm
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Hi Julie
Yes your right I forgot they do suggest more than the standard 3 inch pipe or at least the larger unit does. I spoke to their rep a couple months ago because I was going to add them to my line up thinking they would sell in my area because of the greenhouses. I never got involved only because of the currency exchange brought the cost up to a point where I didn't think I would be able to sell them. I'm in Canada so I was going to need about 3000 for them.
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 17 Feb 2016 09:28pm
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The little camp stove is neat and burns for 5 hours. It doesn't say how much square footage it heats, though. Defintely not for indoors but maybe for a greenhouse!
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Jebediah
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2016 07:26am - Edited by: Jebediah
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I was going to send you info on this stove(wiseway) in your other post. I was looking for stoves on Home Depot site and they were advertising this, I was surprised to see it as I didn't think it had any of the required safety approvals and the stove was still going through modifications.
I don't trust reading reviews any longer as I just learnt there are companies out there that offer their services to write reviews in your favour for a certain fee.
As others have said, if its feasible buy your pellets in bulk, pallet load.
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2016 08:21pm
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Jebediah
Wow, I switched my Home Depot preferred store to the one I'll use in Oregon and, yeah, the Wiseway is listed there! It's funny how the product selection list changed -- because Texas doesn't care about EPA approval (or safety features, no doubt).
Hmmm, I need to get a review-writing gig. I can spell, punctuate, and use appropriate syntax, even! Unlike most of those review-writers, hahahaha. I wonder how you land one of those jobs?!
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2016 09:10pm
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It looks more like modern art. Doesnt fit in the "sticks"
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2016 01:21am
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Quoting: toyota_mdt_tech It looks more like modern art. Doesnt fit in the "sticks"
Right?! That's what I thought, too! Kind of industrial or steampunk, maybe. 
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upndown
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2016 05:27am
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Just install that where you and your friends enjoy that special Herbal Tea!  
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littlesalmon4
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2016 11:46am
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I am not sure if everyone is familiar with the reality show Ice Lake Rebels. It is about a bunch 4 season house boaters in Yellowknife NWT. I remember right at the end of the season one of the house boaters in a pretty big place installed a Wiseway heater. I was surprised because while I had found them on the net, I had not heard much about them. Maybe some kind of promo deal to bring more awareness to their product.
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shall
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2016 01:14pm - Edited by: shall
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[quote=Julie2Oregon][/quote]
I assume that the variance in selection would be due to wood stoves not being in as big of demand in Texas.
Today is the 4th consecutive 80+ degree February day in San Antonio
The areas in Texas that do get cold don't have nearly the abundance of trees/firewood as they do in the PNW
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2016 01:42pm
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Quoting: upndown Just install that where you and your friends enjoy that special Herbal Tea!
Hahahahaha, upndown! That might be frightening!
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2016 01:46pm
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littlesalmon4
I'll bet it was a promo. The guy who invented it eventually settled in Medford, OR, where it's now produced. That isn't very far from where I'll be living so it's sold in the area. I won't be buying it at present but it will be interesting to take a look at one.
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2016 01:56pm
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shall
We get a lot of ice storms where I live. Wood stoves are fairly common. I was going to put one in my house -- and I totally envy my neighbors who have them -- but I decided to move to Oregon and didn't go through the expense.
There's a house about a mile away from me that always has an insane amount of firewood stacked up high all along the privacy fence that borders his property. The owner must sell it, even though there's no sign out front. I'm figuring it's mesquite.
We've only had one ice storm this year. Go figure -- they were predicting an exceptionally awful, icy-snowy winter for us. Nope. Yeah, we've been in the 80s, too. It's unnatural. February here is usually icy. I am SO GLAD I won't be here this summer. It's going to be Bug-apalooza since it didn't get cold enough to kill them AND it's going to be extra hot and dry. We've already been having big grassfires because of the heat, wind, and lack of rain.
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 28 Feb 2016 11:03pm
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Well, Wiseway it's going to be -- after many discussions with some stove pros and also some folks who are using it in their cabins. Someone who's had it for a year said it's his only source of heat, he can't imagine using anything else for off-grid.
US Stove bought Wiseway last fall. Grrrrr, BUT they did improve the manual and written materials by leaps and bounds. And it's why you can read about it and order it via Home Depot.
I love the detailed instructions, including how you can tweak it to adjust the burn to your square footage and needs:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/US-Stove-Wiseway-2-000-sq-ft-40-000-BTU-Non-Electric-Gravi ty-Fed-Pellet-Stove-GW1949/206691061?keyword=Wiseway+pellet+stove
The Wiseway is near the top of my heating stove budget. However, I think it's a solid purchase.
I don't know how the water jacket works but I'll likely put the stove between the kitchen and living room so the back of the stove and water jacket would be close to my kitchen and hot water needs there.
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Bret
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# Posted: 4 Mar 2016 03:16pm
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http://clarrypelletstove.com
Another non-electric pellet stove to look at.
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 4 Mar 2016 03:45pm
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Quoting: Bret http://clarrypelletstove.comAnother non-electric pellet stove to look at.
I dunno, Bret. I read the literature and for the residential model it says "EPA-exempt." I don't think that would pass muster for Oregon or any other state that requires heating stoves to be EPA-certified. Even stricter EPA regs went into effect this year that residential stoves bearing EPA certification are having to meet.
Beyond that, this Clarry really goes through pellets! Yikes, 40 lbs. only lasts 8 hours? I'll get 30 hours burning on low from the Wiseway.
I think it's really meant more for weekend/vacation/recreational use and may serve that purpose quite well. But it wouldn't work for full-time off-gridders as a primary heat source.
Wiseway also makes smaller pellet stoves for tents, camping, and such.
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Bret
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# Posted: 4 Mar 2016 04:06pm
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Worth a try. Wiseway looks like the way to go. It's fun to look at alternatives. Never know when something sweet might pop up. I'm enjoying following your adventure.
Bret
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Julie2Oregon
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# Posted: 4 Mar 2016 04:18pm
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Bret
Thanks! I would like to get a little wood-burner such as this for my greenhouse so keep the tender plants warm on the cold days. I think Coyote Flats was looking for something similar for greenhouses, too!
I have to be careful of what I buy because not everything is approved for use in Oregon. It's not terrible, though. Sheesh, California is the state that is REALLY stringent.
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