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ATB
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 02:21pm
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I've been trying to get a wood burning stove for my heat source and a local place has a great deal on this stove. I am concerned it is not going to be big enough for my 12x16 place it has gambrel roof so 13.5 feet at the peak. Sleep area is in the loft.

http://woodheatstoves.com/windsor-wr244-high-efficiency-wood-stove-p-17769.html?cPath =293_123_483

thanks for your feedback.

ATB
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 02:22pm
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Insulated to r15 in walls and floor. And ceiling will be r18.

MtnDon
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 02:46pm
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It will cook you, IMO. Lots of variables but that is a lot of stove for 12x16 even with a high ceiling/loft.

LDamm
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 03:32pm - Edited by: LDamm
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I have this on in my 12x16, 12/12 pitch, half loft with big windows.....that have to be open when the fires going. Cooks me out. Your cabin is 200sq feet and the stove will heat 1000sq feet.
http://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/stoves-add-on-furnaces/wood-stoves/vogelz ang-the-defender-wood-stove/p-200871-c-6884.htm

The shed http://www.small-cabin.com/forum/shared_files/uploaded/2966/59202_3_o.jpg

ATB
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 03:42pm
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Thanks guys I was looking at max btus at 26000.
One day a few weeks ago I was there it was 9 degrees and I used my big buddy propane heater which says 18000 btus and my kids said they were cold. So I was just thinking 26000 would be best case and be closer to the big buddy. Maybe I can fire up both if they are still cold and the dry heat from the fire can cancel out the moisture from the propane.

wactober
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 04:43pm
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LDamm
No Menards in my area have the Defender in stock....did you get it from the store or special order it? Can you list any pros or cons with this stove?

Sarg68
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 07:58pm
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Your place is the same size as mine and I bought the vogelzang Bx22EL and it will roast you out of your place for a lot less money. Good luck. Sarg68

neb
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2014 08:02pm - Edited by: neb
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I'm no expert in wood stoves but I have been around them most of my life. Till just recently I installed a small wood stove in a 10x12 and this small stove will heat this space very well. I have way more heat then I want with this size stove.


bldginsp
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2014 09:04am
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The general conclusion I've come to after reading numerous threads here that ask about woodstove size in a small cabin is that you are best off with both a small woodstove and a propane heater to supplement.

Even a small woodstove will be plenty to heat a small insulated (or uninsulated) cabin, but because it's small it won't hold enough wood to burn overnight. So you have to get up at 3 to load more wood, unless your wall mounted direct vent propane heater kicks in by thermostat at 3 AM with enough heat to keep you warm til you roll out of bed and start up the wood stove again.

Also, in Fall and Spring when it's not cold enough to warrant the woodstove, the propane heater will take the edge off without roasting you out.

MtnDon
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2014 10:10am
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Quoting: bldginsp
best off with both a small woodstove and a propane heater to supplement.


that's what we drew into our plans right from the start

LDamm
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2014 12:33pm
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Quoting: wactober
LDammNo Menards in my area have the Defender in stock....did you get it from the store or special order it? Can you list any pros or cons with this stove?


My Menards (Oshkosh, WI) have them in stock. Your should be able to get them to get one in, or order online and ship free to store.

Pros:
EPA certified re-burn technology so its very efficient and clean. I burned pine for a year and had NO creosote in my pipes.

Air wash glass door NEVER gets dirty.

Full fire brick lined so even though its small, it holds fire (with pine) for about three hours+ but then holds heat for another 3 or 4.

Double wall so blower works good and clearances are SMALL.

Blower listed as accessory but came in the box.

Got it for $379 on sale.

Very good fire control.

Cons:
Small so won't hold a lot of wood.

neb
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2014 07:17pm
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Quoting: bldginsp
Even a small woodstove will be plenty to heat a small insulated (or uninsulated) cabin, but because it's small it won't hold enough wood to burn overnight. So you have to get up at 3 to load more wood, unless your wall mounted direct vent propane heater kicks in by thermostat at 3 AM with enough heat to keep you warm til you roll out of bed and start up the wood stove again.


Exactly a small stove needs to be supplied more often.

bldginsp
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2014 10:20pm
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Does anyone have experience with the automatic feed pellet stoves? Maybe a workable alternative for a small cabin would be one of those, if they make them small enough, and if it doesn't require electricity to operate. Think I heard of one that worked by a wind up mechanism. So you could load up the pellet hopper before you went to bed and it would gradually feed it through the night.

Any pellet advocates out there? Pellet detractors?

rmak
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# Posted: 29 Mar 2014 08:53am
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I just ran across this thread. I am going with a Jotul 602, which the smallest I could find with good ratings. Even it's too big, since it is rated up to 800sq. ft. I can't remember where I saw, heard or read this but I also bought double walled stovepipe. I know from experience that the pipe throws off a lot of heat, so if I can just keep a reasonable fire in the box and that's the primary radiant heat source, I think I'll be OK.

Sustainusfarm
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# Posted: 29 Mar 2014 12:52pm
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I have the stove you originally asked about and we heat 790 sqft with no problem and down to -15 degrees...we often have to open a window or skylite to cool it off....

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