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Aveallc
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2013 03:34pm
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Does anyone have any experience in burying a fresh water tank. I need to bury one below the frost line. Need to know if I need to put gravel down first. Any helpful hints on purchasing one would also be greatly appreciated.

sparky1
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2013 05:00pm
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Hello,
I did compacted sand.nice & level using, "water level, clear hose",,Tank I bought said no gravel, it could possibly punch holes in it.I put 1/2" sheets of styrofoam on the sides before i filled the tank so the back fill wouldn't possibly do the same.almost 15 years & doing fine,mine a green tank,.
sparky1 in southern va.

Aveallc
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2013 05:17pm
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Thanks Sparky1,

How is yours set up as far as a pump. I'm new at this so any advise would be very helpful. How many gallon tank do you have?
Any advise on where to purchase. I'm in Iowa.

sparky1
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2013 09:05pm - Edited by: sparky1
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suction off (near bottom)of tank,I have a 12 volt DC, (RV style) pump Plastic Check valve(rv)(output) thru a whole House filter, up to rv style sink (Small) Just got propane water heater (from group member) By-passed pressure sw. so i can heat water with No Flow,but pressurized.been to cold to do test run .it was 5.2 this morning,
years ago i lived in a 17 ft camper same setup-did fine (2)+ Years, I have solar panels for power 4D 12 volt battery in a safe battery box.I have a couple old campers so i can do almost any rigging to last a long time.
sparky1.

tank can be purchased tractor supply-you need dpickup-and tie it down good.

sparky1
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2013 09:25pm
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Aveallc
old tank was 300 has lasted me a long time (i'm single)-treat well water (test kit) add bleach,& carbon Filter, bigger tank (#2) now in hill side for emergencies (not treated) gravity flow-NOT hooked up yet, just sitting there (Full)i'll use (rule brand)bilge style 12 v,DC. pump to circulate it,to prevent becoming stagnant.once hooked up-it will do more,I use porty pottie mostly when there. the well is 220 V ac most of the rest is 12 volt DC off battery. now that i have old Trailer i live in---im adding "water storage" in a water heater,in upper area closet,water goes thru it-daily,,--but it will be emergency if necessary, I'm doing my Best to get off the grid,I also have solar hot water hooked up prior to electric tank (house trailer) but the pumps & control are 115 Vac i'll be changing it to 12 volt pumps this summer (I hope)
sorry i'm rambling on---sparky1.

Popeye
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2013 10:48pm
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Sparky1 is correct. Place the tank on sand. A 12" layer of sand will compact itself once the tank is filled with water. Backfill after the tank is filled.

Aveallc
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2013 08:17am
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Thanks guys.
What size pipe do you have coming out of the top? I assume you have 2 pipes one for filling the tank and one for pumping fresh water out. Did you bury the whole tank below frost line or just partial.

Martian
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2013 08:45am
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Ace Roto tanks are made in Iowa. I have their 700 gal tank made for in-ground use. It works well.

Tom

Popeye
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2013 08:58am
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Only the bottom of the tank needs to be below the frost line.

Aveallc
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2013 07:07pm
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Popeye when you say only the bottom are you talking about inches or feet needs to be below frost line.

Popeye
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# Posted: 19 Feb 2013 07:37pm
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A couple of inches is enough.

Aveallc
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# Posted: 28 Mar 2013 10:29pm
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Need some help. I'm hearing from guys in my area that they won't bury plastic fresh water tanks below the frost line because they have a tendency to float to the surface if not left full. Any experience with this issue out there? Need to get a water solution at our cabin ASAP and trying to do it the most economical way possible.
Thx in advance for any suggestions.

ICC
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# Posted: 28 Mar 2013 11:03pm
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If the water table is high that is a very likely thing. Also the fine print about most tanks that can be buried specify minimum water level to be 25%. They want to float like a boat, unless full of water, again, like a boat. Except for spherical tanks. If the water table is that high or the ground poorly drained that is a difficult nut to crack.

Martian
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# Posted: 29 Mar 2013 08:40am
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Quoting: Aveallc
Need some help. I'm hearing from guys in my area that they won't bury plastic fresh water tanks below the frost line because they have a tendency to float to the surface if not left full. Any experience with this issue out there?


Personally, when I'm paying someone, they do things that I want done the way I want them done....Its the "Golden Rule"; He with the gold rules! If you want it buried, hire a backhoe operator and bury it. They aren't responsible.

Tom

Babysaph
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2013 03:45pm
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Wouldn't the hole have to be full of water for it to float?

WY_mark
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# Posted: 2 Apr 2013 12:47pm
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you might see if there's a concrete option near you. doesn't have to be any % full to keep from crushing. we're looking at a 1450gal cistern, considering a non-plastic option with a shallow well pump and pressure vessel. given the cost of water delivery and that we'll pay for the full truck wether we need it or not I wasn't too excited to have a tank that had to remain 25% full.

GomerPile
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# Posted: 2 Apr 2013 12:55pm
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I have seen a el-cheapo poly tank burried in a "vault" made from concrete blocks. the top of the vault was covered in railroad ties and rigid foam to keep the dirt out.

Direct bury tanks are really expensive and concrete blocks are really cheap.

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