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bldginsp
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2014 01:08am - Edited by: bldginsp
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Huh?
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2014 01:20am - Edited by: MtnDon
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Philosopher's stone  I want one.
Alchemy. Base metal to gold. Who needs perpetual motion, et al when you can have all the gold you want/need?
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2014 01:34am
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Who needs worldly attachments, Grasshopper, when enlightenment is on the tip of your nose.
-Sidhartha
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Zombie Joe
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2016 10:39pm
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How about this ?... you power your 10hp electric motor from the Electric grid that is already established and can more than fully run your power generator to 10000w easily. You then run your entire house off of the generator. The only thing i'm trying to figure out is 1. How to shut off the backflow into the lines so someone working on them would not get Electrocuted, and 2.) how to keep just one circuit in the house open to use the grid. Its not getting rid of the grid that should be the thing. Its using just enough to get going, and then make your own.
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Zombie Joe
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2016 10:40pm
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How about this ?... you power your 10hp electric motor from the Electric grid that is already established and can more than fully run your power generator to 10000w easily. You then run your entire house off of the generator. The only thing i'm trying to figure out is 1. How to shut off the backflow into the lines so someone working on them would not get Electrocuted, and 2.) how to keep just one circuit in the house open to use the grid. Its not getting rid of the grid that should be the thing. Its using just enough to get going, and then make your own.
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Zombie Joe
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2016 10:56pm
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2008 21:27
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I am sure this "bright idea" has already been tried or maybe not?
Why can't we just develop a generator that will run by itself using electric running and running for as long as you need power? Electric motor running the generator and generator feeding the electric to electric motor and to the house??
Or did I confuse anyone?
How about This?.... You use the Grid to fully run your electric motor that will in turn easily run your 10000w or more generator. You then Plug that into your breaker box running the rest of your house from the generator. In my theory for a few Pennies instead of a few dollars an hour you could run everything in your home. I'm only running into two Problems. 1.) How to keep the electric flow from running down the lines and frying someone working on the lines. and 2.) How to keep just one breaker on in the box to run the electric motor. Of course im working in theory. The Idea is to use what is there. The grid is established why banish it? Use just enough of it to get started, and then make the rest yourself.
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MondayCreek
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2016 11:12pm
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Fun times!
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2016 11:26pm
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I experienced perpetual motion this last week. I had a bad stomach flu type of thing and I can tell ya- I was perpetually moving to the bathroom for a couple of days. But I know where the energy came from cause I lost 10 lbs. Now I'm eating extra donuts to make back the excess weight. Now there's another perpetual motion machine- my hand going from the donut bag back and forth to my mouth. Never stops.
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ack787
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# Posted: 29 Mar 2016 12:46pm - Edited by: ack787
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Really the closest thing to that currently is a hydrogen generator. There is much dispute behind it mostly because of the enthalpy behind the water/hydrogen bond to change it from H20 to HHO. I believe it's obtainable myself. Mostly because of people like Stanley Myers. I've seen much debate and designs on this and came to a conclusion that most people have a misconception of electrical resonance. The designs i've seen in use have increased efficiency but won't seperate at a good enough rate(both LPM and in Power Consumption for production) to run a generator. It is my belief that where they go wrong is people think any electrical resonant circuit will work... The equation for this largely is XL=XC (Inductive Reactants = Capacitive Reactants) (XL=2piFL and XC= 1/2pifC). With that said they forget that they are trying to effect a certain material. Much like breaking glass with sound the circuit has the revolve around the natural frequency of the atoms to be affected. So again to break sound it has to be the natural frequency of the glass and the proper amplitude to break the glass. MIT has open course-ware for physics for an undergrad level, great video lectures from professor Walter Lewin. Anyways back to the hydrogen cell I would belive that people would have more luck if they used a natural frequency of say the hydrogen atom which we know from astrophysics as they use it to map the galaxy. That gives you at least the f (frequency) in the equation. After that it's amplitude and I could see it working from there forth. Would'nt break any laws of physics because you are burning a fuel and producing heat.... still losses in it but I't would serve it's purpose. Nice thing wouldn't be much in the form of pollutants...
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alec437
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# Posted: 23 Sep 2017 02:15pm
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Just gonna leave this here.... lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv53K9MnDuM genertator powers itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiAhiu6UqXQ Use a bigger car fan... lol
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cspot
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2019 04:26pm
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Heliarc
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2024 07:53pm
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Hello, new here.
I ran across this site just casually searching the topic.
I wanted to say a few things regarding same.
Witts is fake. 100%. Their website request large donations in order to get any Blueprints for the designs that don't exist.
I have seen a real video of one that does in fact work. Don't care about people arguing perpetual motion..laws of thermal.. the technique is using permanent magnet generators and motors as they yield high efficency... resonance.. and leverage.
The one I've witnessed is not open to YouTube any longer but I personally know the inventor. His would only produce a couple of watts extra and was very hard to regulate.
There is another I'm aware of that's real. His video is on YT it's called Muller Motor made by RomeroUK (channel name) his produces appx 11w extra.
His works by using magnets to help "ease" lenz effect on the iron core by using Bedini style switching and Monopole motor design.
The one I know of uses "Inherent mechanical advantage"
I am not allowed to go much more into detail than that as it's something me and him are still actively working on.
But I did want to share this here since I see many people truly interested in the subject.
Buy some motors and try for yourself.
I do not believe these motors actually violate any laws of physics... only as we understand them.
You can do alot with BLDC motors especially large outrunner style motors.
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Fanman
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2024 09:19am
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I always wonder whether people who propose perpetual motion machines are just trolls or truly don't understand basic physics.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2024 09:20am
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Likely a bit of both 
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ICC
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2024 10:07am
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Quoting: Fanman I always wonder whether people who propose perpetual motion machines are just trolls or truly don't understand basic physics.
I believe they truly do not understand physics and science in general. Some may also be trolls but if they are trolling on this subject, I believe they must first not understand the science.
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paulz
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2024 01:02pm
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After I turned the TV remote over to the wife last night, with nothing else to do I went through this whole thread (surprised my first look, been on here longer than me). The you tube videos can be pretty convincing, and lead to others. If only...
I did get one good reminder: my creek is flowing pretty good now, I should look into those water wheel generators. Got an old bicycle wheel with a genny around here someplace.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2024 04:32pm - Edited by: gcrank1
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Anything that outputs less than a min 'regulated' 14.5v isn't worth my time messing about anymore. That is to say, it has to put out more to be able to do that under load.
A car gen/alt has to spin fast enough to do it While Under A Charging Load. When I tried to diy it looked like Id need a min 5hp B&S, maybe more. What that would correlate to in a water wheel and 'gear ratio' I don't know, but since water has been used for everything for so long I bet the info is 'out there'.
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paulz
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2024 10:22am
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Quoting: gcrank1 What that would correlate to in a water wheel and 'gear ratio' I don't know, but since water has been used for everything for so long I bet the info is 'out there'.
We talked about water wheel generators awhile ago, don't remember what thread. Would be a prefect supplement for me, solar starved in winter when there's good creek flow. And it's 24/7, unlike sun shine. No drop offs on my creek though, maybe a foot or two. If it were just enough to recharge an off line battery.
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