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paulz
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2020 11:49pm
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Noticed this today. Anybody used one? Safer?
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paulz
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2020 05:47pm
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Nobody familiar with these? Looks like a safer alternative to open flame.
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Bruces
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2020 05:51pm
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I know nothing about it ,but it does look perfect for a lot of us ,and it’s reasonably priced too .I might order myself one .
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redwolfguild
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2020 06:12pm
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What is the power consumption on that?
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paulz
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2020 06:18pm - Edited by: paulz
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Here's the Ebay listing for that one, there are many more.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Propane-Dual-2-Burner-Infrared-Cooker-Kitchen-RV-Co oktop-Double-Stove/372957913713
I did a bit of reading, supposed to be more efficient than open flame. I'm not concerned about that so much, my wife has only one shaky hand, I don't let her use the cooktop at the cabin.
The big selling point they tout is it works in the wind, no flame to douse.
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paulz
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2021 08:48pm
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Well I was about to bite the bullet and order one of these, then I noticed the 'for outdoor use only' warning. This is exactly like the cooktop I have now, save the infrared deal. No warning on mine.
Something besides the CO?
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2021 09:41pm
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I think they have to say that for the lawyers. Arent all camp stoves 'outdoor use only' yet we have all used them indoors, right? Even though gas home cook stoves work the same maybe it is the UL listing or such that gets em by?
I agree that open flame has its issues, my mom in her last several years could not be trusted with her decades old LP stove.
Fwiw, my recent experience with an LP infrared wall heater vs a similar 'blue flame' is I like the IR far better.
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paulz
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2021 10:00am
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I just ordered one. Can't see why it would be any different from the open flame we have now CO wise. Plus, a second cooktop will be nice. When I have people over for BBQs on the Webber I'm constantly going in and out of the cabin for side dishes on the cooktop. Now I can have one outside.
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Nobadays
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2021 10:09am
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For outside use it will be far superior to an open flame stovetop. For a number of years we used a "Pocket Rocket" stove for backpacking, open flame, always fighting wind.... even a light breeze affects the heat output. We now, and have for a few years, use an infrared type stove, "MSR Reactor" way better, you can even light it in the wind. Love it!
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 19 Jan 2021 07:55pm
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Im awaiting the 'road test' report 
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paulz
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# Posted: 19 Jan 2021 09:01pm
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It says delivery tomorrow but it's still 500 miles away. Too bad because I'm heading to the cabin.
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paulz
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# Posted: 21 Jan 2021 09:57am
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The new phone book's here, I'm somebody!
It arrived yesterday just in time to bolt for the cabin. Meant to boil water on the old cooktop for time comparison but in my excitement I forgot. Cooked dinner on it last night and boiled coffee water this morning.
Starts and stops just like the old one, piezo ignition.
Boiling water about the same time, wife thought a little faster.
Adjusting heat is nicer, the ceramic dealie changes color immediately instead of open flame guessing.
I haven't washed the soot off the bottom of my pans yet but I'm hoping it cuts down on that. Should since no flame hits it.
Supposed to provide for more even heating, don't know about that, I still burned the onions.
All I can think of so far, but I like it.
About 80 bucks shipped, made in China I'm sure.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2021 12:45am - Edited by: darz5150
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Looks like a nice rig. Keep us posted about if it uses less propane. I would think it has to have better heat distribution/control. ðŸ‘
How small of pot/pan can you use?
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paulz
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2021 04:44pm
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Back at the cabin. 5" is the smallest pot diameter. Frying up some ham, taters, onions, squash tonight..
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 23 Jan 2021 05:07pm
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I like cooking on bigger dia stuff now anyway, I spill less off the sides
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paulz
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2021 10:47am - Edited by: paulz
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I'm with you there! Water kettle does seem to boil a bit faster, and best of all no more soot. Had to turn the heat down quite a bit on the frying pan so I believe it does use less gas as they claim.
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RiverCabin
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2021 05:05pm
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Quoting: paulz The new phone book's here, I'm somebody!
He hates these cans.
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paulz
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2021 05:32pm
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Lol. I need to watch that again, been a long time.
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paulz
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2021 10:45am
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I'm on a ceramic kick! Just finished breakfast at the cabin. Now that I've had this for a month I have to say it was worth every penny. Biggest advantage for a slob like me is no soot on anything, pots, pans, cook top, sink, sponge.. No open flame is of course nice. Heat adjustment is easy too, the ceramic is bright orange on high, dims to almost blue on low, easy to tell. Hard to tell on actual propane usage since other appliances are using the same tank now.
So that's about it. I'm finally a trailblazer at something on this forum so wanted to update.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2021 10:57am
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Paul, after getting an infrared propane wall furnace with the 'tiles' as a Christmas present for the cabin we also love it. I doubt it is any more fuel efficient, but the math is easy, as there are some 92K btu's in a gal of propane and at 30K btu's on high it should use a gal in about 3 hours. But it doesnt matter, we love the way the heat feels, just like a wood stove.
I expect we would like your cook stove and even tho I grew up with and have preferred a gas flame cooktop I think the learning curve sounds like I could do it.
Btw, if you had soot to clean up from a gas flame stove the fuel/air wasnt set properly; gas when right burns clean. Now a stove set for natural gas and run on propane will burn way rich/soot up.
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paulz
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2021 11:13am
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Yeah something was wrong with my open flame cook top, maybe was the regulator. I have it on the deck now for outside use on a different one, we'll see.
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Daaaaaaaan
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# Posted: 1 Mar 2021 10:41pm
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Quoting: gcrank1 I think they have to say that for the lawyers. Arent all camp stoves 'outdoor use only' yet we have all used them indoors, right?
I think the difference here is that if the propane doesn't all burn (e.g. contaminated catalyst), you end up exhausting unburned lpg into the cabin.
With a blue-flame stove, you'll get complete combustion unless you start running low on oxygen, but the woodstove's draft or an open window will help with that.
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