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ArtifactJack
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2019 10:45pm
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I have to put a wood stove in my cabin. My big buddy propane heater has been acting up, I had to start it with my cigarette lighter last time I was there, and it still shut off in the middle of the night.....It's 14x14 inside, insulated, but has a 8x14 loft upstairs and storage over the porch. There is a 6 foot opening to the loft upstairs that starts at the front door. So the wood stove has to go there, soon as you walk in the door. The stove pipe would have to go through the roof, way below the peak at 17 feet. I may just put a stove pipe out the window. My solar install hasn't burned the place down yet....
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ICC
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2019 11:13am - Edited by: ICC
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Quoting: ArtifactJack I may just put a stove pipe out the window. My solar install hasn't burned the place down yet....
It's much easier to burn down a building with a faulty wood stove installation that solar IMO. And out the window would definitely be faulty. I hope that was an attempt at humor.
If you have a clear vertical run up to the roof you have as easy an install as there is. Ready-made parts are waiting for you. Check your stove manual for any maximum length of single wall pipe. It is common to see 10 - 12 feet vertical max for single wall pipe. So you install a roof support and drop insulated or double wall pipe at least far enough to limit the length of single wall. Then install some length(s) outside above the roof. Cap it and you are about done. It might be more expensive than you think but it is safe.
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cspot
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2019 04:11pm
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Quoting: ICC It's much easier to burn down a building with a faulty wood stove installation that solar IMO. And out the window would definitely be faulty. I hope that was an attempt at humor.If you have a clear vertical run up to the roof you have as easy an install as there is. Ready-made parts are waiting for you. Check your stove manual for any maximum length of single wall pipe. It is common to see 10 - 12 feet vertical max for single wall pipe. So you install a roof support and drop insulated or double wall pipe at least far enough to limit the length of single wall. Then install some length(s) outside above the roof. Cap it and you are about done. It might be more expensive than you think but it is safe.
I agree. They also make a thru the wall kit if that would work better for you. DOing it right is a little pricey but well worth it.
To the OP. What would stop you from putting in a direct Vent Propane heater? I have one of those in addition to my wood stove in my cabin. I have it hooked to 2 - 40lb tanks with an autoswitch valve. Works well. You could even put on bigger tanks. I use 40# because I can still safely haul them in my truck with the cap on.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2019 07:14am
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Make us a drawing or take a pic of the problem your having. Generaly speaking its best to have the stove in the living room area. People gather near the stove. Also make the pipe go streight up through the roof. This allows for better draft, a cleaner chimney and makes it easier to clean. Also 90* bends in chimney pipe are expensive and dont gain you any height.
If your talking about running the chimney through the loft that can be accomplished with insulated pipe very easily.
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ArtifactJack
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2019 07:10pm
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Thanks for the replies. The roof is hipped close to where the stove pipe would go, if I put it straight up from the stove location. I want it to be safe when I leave, or gone for a couple of hours. Also my deer hunters stay there, and I don't want them harmed or burning the place down. Probably going with a propane wall heater to replace that mr. buddy junk. The out the wall pipe suggested, might be the answer. I need a small wood stove for reliable heat. Like the pot belly stove in the tobacco stripping room. The cabin has around 350 feet of floor space, including the loft. I tried to post a picture with this post, but it never loaded........thanks again.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2019 06:48am
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What is your question?
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fitzpatt
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2019 03:47pm
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Quoting: ArtifactJack My big buddy propane heater has been acting up, I had to start it with my cigarette lighter last time I was there, and it still shut off in the middle of the night.....
This may be a Big Buddy safety feature. When there is insufficient oxygen it will shut off and not light. "Automatic low oxygen shut-off system (ODS)".
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Brettny
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2019 05:08pm
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That oxygen shut off system is the pilot light going out due to low oxygen. If a pilot light needs more oxygen of a human im not sure nor do i want to find out.
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darz5150
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2019 12:09am
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On your heater issue. Try blowing it out with an air compressor. I have a Mr. Heater floor mount that shuts down if it gets too much dust in it. Plus a guy I know bought a small and the bigger Mr. Buddy portable ones. Both of them did the same thing. The low o2 sensors can be pretty fussy. But they have to be don't they?
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ArtifactJack
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2019 10:11pm
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Thanks for the comments. And yes the problem is reliable heat. The original post was about a wood stove pipe because wood is reliable. The picture didn't load of the cabin on here to show you what the roof of my cabin construction looks like, and the problem. My cabin is a Amish build that they brought on a trailer back in the day. Its 14x 20 and 18 feet high with the loft. It looks like a small barn. And has served me well over the last ten years without any heat, but kerosene occasionally. But I have been staying there for a couple of days a week. Don't need a lot of heat, if any, for myself................cold is all in your mind, veteran mentality, and a zero degree sleeping bag. Looking for a new propane heater for the cabin this season, about time winter comes rolling around. You cabin people stay safe surviving, its not for the weak at heart.
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