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Srollins
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2018 08:07pm
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Hello all,
Building a 24x32 Stoney wall system cabin in West Virginia Stoney walls on three sides , my one gable facing my woods will be from floor to roof 6x6 framing housing 22 1" thick glass so the windows will be fixed. Question is should I leave a sizable gap in the framing for movement? And what type of material should I sit the glass on with-in the framing cork? Very heavy glass and I don't want any movement to crack any the 6x6 is clear yellow pine kiln dried.
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Tonerboy
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2018 10:25pm
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Could we see pics of the cabin during the build and any comments about how the "stoney method" worked?
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Srollins
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2018 07:24am
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I am heading down next weekend to set more logs and will take a few shots then. I like the wall system but found a few minor issues and adjusted accordingly #1 its hard to find perfectly straight wood even when you pick your own , with that said I found as I was setting if the wood Han a crown the next log was affected and your between log joints wouldn't be the same so you need to pick perfectly straight as possible. #2 the butt pass corners didn't look good to me and were confusing , I installed 6x6 posts inside and ran the logs up that way screwing into the post at every lift , very strong and helped keep the logs plumb. I like the system but running electric and water could be a pain. But I have some ideas, I will have big overhangs but still worried about bugs I hears spray under cabin and around with borax soap water solution not sure? Will post pics next week
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Srollins
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2018 07:26am
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And oh the corners I will apply 2x6 or 2x8 trim boards to hide the log edges
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old243
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2018 09:12am
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Strollins, It is difficult to get cants , that stay perfect. Quite often they are heart wood , as they dry further or take on moisture , you can experience twisting , or cracking open to the heart. I have a mill, have cut cants and have had to go back once they dried and re square them. If you look at the end grain of the cant and see the annual rings are centered in the cant, it will likely move or twist more than one cut , from outer parts of the log. The drying process creates tremendous pressure , that you may or may not be able to hold with bolts. Not trying to be negative, just my experience, for what it is worth. Perhaps a powered hand held planer , might assist it , making , some adjustments. Good luck with your build. old 243
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rockies
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2018 06:23pm - Edited by: rockies
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From what I gather from your description, you are building a gable end wall that will have a number of 1" thick glass panes set into a rustic owner-built frame of 6x6 logs and you are concerned that the shrinking of the logs over time might put stress on the glass and crack it later on.
I would set the glass within each "square frame" of logs. Router a channel in all four sides of each square (where the glass panes will sit) and place a couple of small wedges in the bottom groove to hold the glass up off the wood a bit.
As an example, if the glass panes are 3' x 3' you would router 4 grooves around the inside frame to fit in a piece of glass that was 3'1" wide by 3' 2" high. The extra inches will allow for an expansion space on each side of the glass of about 1/2" and a 1 1/2" expansion space at the top (above the pane).
Of course, you will have to install each piece of glass as you build the frame from the floor up since they will be "sealed" within the frame. The best example of this method is how they put panels into cabinet door frames.
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Borrego
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2018 07:29pm
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Also, soft material shims to allow for movement, not necessarily wood 
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creeky
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2018 07:39pm
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I think the grey foam backer rod might work for this?
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Jebediah
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2018 10:32am
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The old cabin I lived had 2x8 frame/casing for very large 6x8 solid glass windows. The 2x8 from what I could tell had slotted bolts through the frame into the logs or maybe another 2x8 then the logs. I'm not sure what they had under the glass, I never removed the trim....
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OraLabora
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# Posted: 7 May 2019 07:35pm
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Are the Stoney-style cabins being insulated or is 6 inches of wood ample for building codes?
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ICC
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# Posted: 7 May 2019 08:07pm - Edited by: ICC
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Six inches of wood will not satisfy energy codes. Some states do have special rules for log walls. Your best answer will be to ask the local authorities anytime one must build to the codes.
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ICC
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# Posted: 7 May 2019 08:10pm
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Ask if you can use REScheck, an online or downloadable program that you use to enter building data and see if it can pass the energy code.
Google it. REScheck
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Tonerboy
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# Posted: 21 Jan 2021 04:27pm
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Any Pics yet?
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