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racingjoe66
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 10:39am
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Okay guys. My parents bought 2 fully built log cabins that we need to tear down to move. There is no way to move them whole. The cabins are 19' wide and 25' long double D logs 6" high and 10" wide and they are not tongue and grove, just milled flat top and bottom. they are nailed together every 12" and also glued and then caulked on the outside. Need opinions on a fast tear down. We had thought log by log and sawzall between the logs origionally but we're not so sure that will work.
Our new thought is to get the entire roof off and end wall peaks and roof trusses. Once we do that then we have a full length log above the long end walls windows and we would take that 1 log down whole so when we put the cabin back up it has some extra support with the way we are thinking of tearing it down. Once we get that log off we will take a frame guided chainsaw with a small blade and cut at the corners on the long sided side walls back from the corner about 4" give or take straight down top to bottom. then we can take the whole wall off and the same with the end walls they will just come down after just doing those 4 cuts.
Now we are wondering opinions on our thought of putting it back up.
Before we put it back up we will start at the 2nd log up from the bottom and drill out on the side wall side and then the end wall side log a hole the same size for like a 1/1/2 to 2" in diameter and lets say 8-10" deep. We will then glue in a steel rod in one hole to make a heavy duty dowel to support the wall and help guide when putting back up. We will do this every other log. And now for the other every other logs we are thinking of the following:
Take a 1" diameter lag bolt/screw and cut the head off. Then we will grind down the rod end opposite of the threads to a point like a pencil and take a rod and do the same and weld those 2 points together and then grind down to get it round again. Then we will weld a head back on to get the total length we need. The very ends of the logs we will drill out and countersink and thread in those very big lag bolts to suck the end walls and 2 side walls back together and tighten them up each little by little by little to snug everything back up nice and tight and plenty of support. then after we are done tightning them down we will make wood plugs to plug them up.
What is everyones thoughts and opinions.....??? We have till May 1st to get the cabins done. Will this idea for taking them down to put them back up that way work?
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racingjoe66
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 10:42am
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Here are some interior pictures of the cabins.
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Steve_S
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 12:34pm
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OK, you have thought about this but I "really" must point out, chainsaws & nails will never make for good outcomes, plain & simple... don't even consider it and if anyone suggests otherwise let THEM show you otherwise while you stand at safe distance.
A Sawzall with Fire & Rescue blades (I like the DeWalt ones myself) will cut through pretty much anything without a blink.
There are different ways to handle this and if you have a fork lift available even if rented. With glues, sealants, nails it would be a bear to separate everything. Taking wall "sections" is another way but those sections would weight in hefty I would think being 6"x10" log.
Marking everything and having a plan/map will be the most important and luckily being the 21st century & digital photo's reassembly is achievable... Imagine developing 5 rolls of film after the fact to discover they're all borked... some things not to miss about the past eh....
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racingjoe66
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 01:13pm
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The nails are spaced 12" apart the person that built these cabins lives 1 mile away and we are going to ask him to come up and see if he can show us were the nails were placed.....
We have a walden and several forklifts available and have looked into renting a telescoping forlift to help with the job.
The 6x10 logs weight 7 to 10 lbs per foot. so one side wall would weight in the range of 4,000 lbs to 4,250 give or take.
We have tags and plans to mark everything in place along with tons of pictures.
thanks for the input 
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 02:28pm
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It is possible to move them whole, but you would need the services of a pro building mover with jacks, beams and trucks. And depending how far you want to move them you may have to pay the utility to remove wires in your way.
If you disassemble I would definitely try to take it apart piece by piece without cutting logs. I wonder if the nails can be pulled, but cutting them with a sawzall wouldn't be too bad. Did you say the logs are glued together? That would be a problem
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racingjoe66
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 03:00pm
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There is no possible way to move them whole. They are across a river and the bridge to access them is not strong enough to support large equipment. And the location they would be going there is too many trees to take down to make it feasable.
We have thought about cutting between logs with a sawzall and cut through the glue and nails, however yes, the glue will gum up the blades and will have to clean out almost every foot or so.
We wondered about pulling the nails as well.
We are going to get the roof off and get down to the first wall log and see what the nails look like there and go from there. but trying to get a plan or backup plan in place before hand. We are heading there tomm to start working and there is no cell phone service or internet. So I will only be able to get on here to check every morning and evening when we stop to work.
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 08:11pm - Edited by: bldginsp
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Take lots of detail pics and post them.
I bet the 'glue' is caulking or other sealant, which can sometimes glue things together. Either way, same problem.
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racingjoe66
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2017 11:09pm
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I can do that. Heading there tomm to start tearing the roof off.
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