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Homestead Initiate
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2016 04:35pm
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Greetings,

I've recently completed the foundation and subfloor of a cabin/home. I am trying to plan the wall framing stage and am having beginner issues.

Background information:

a. Main structure is 16x32' with 9x32' loft; single pitched roof; loft will be on high side.

b. Adjoining the main structure is an 8x12 wing (no loft or 2nd floor).

c. Loft will be supported with 2x10s (3 of them) bolted, spliced and spanning the full 32' length with support posts along the way.

d. On one end the "loft beam" will sit on a 12" (11-1/4" true) constructed header which will sit over a 9' x 6'7-1/2" patio door.

e. Walls will consist of 2x6s.

Question:

After adding up the patio door height, header height, and top and bottom wall plates, my wall height falls over 8' but shy of 9'. So, how do I get my top plate to be 9'? To be exact, I am 3-1/2" shy of 9'. I was thinking of putting "cripple studs" between the header and the "loft beam" enough to get the wall to 9', but am not sure if that is proper.

Thanks in advance for helping.

Just
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2016 04:51pm
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Use longer studs . they make studs for nine foot walls

sparky30_06
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2016 05:26pm - Edited by: sparky30_06
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Are you running a double top plate??

Homestead Initiate
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2016 05:29pm
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My apologies, I asked the wrong question.

I want to know what I can do to get the bottom of the "loft beam" to be at 8', rather than its current height of 7'6-1/4" (as it will presumably sit on the header).

Can I put in "cripple studs" between the header and loft beam? Must the "loft beam" rest on the header directly?

Or, alternatively, is 7'6-1/4" to the bottom of the "loft beam" an OK height according to most folks?

Homestead Initiate
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2016 05:29pm
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Yes, running a double top plate.

bldginsp
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2016 07:48pm
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Got a drawing?

toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2016 12:23am
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You should have a bottom plate, and 2 top plates, with "studs" in between and this is not 8 foot 2X6, a stud is 92 5/8" long, you just need to cut your studs to 104 5/8" and this will give you a smidge over 9 foot walls. Hey, you need a little over to fit the 8 foot sheet rock in.

Door headers, measure up 81.5" from floor to bottom of header. This is the floor, not sub floor.

I think I have that right.

sparky30_06
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2016 06:38am - Edited by: sparky30_06
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This drawing may help you. The measurements are for the shack I am building so adjust as needed for your build
camp_west_wall.jpg
camp_west_wall.jpg


Wilbour
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2016 01:37pm
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Not sure if I understand correctly but I wanted a little more headroom in the loft so I attached crippled studs to the original studs and put the weight of the loft directly on the crippled studs. This ensured that the weight of the loft made its way to the floor without the fastners bearing the load.

Just
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# Posted: 16 Aug 2016 02:54pm
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Could you dispense with the beam and use 2 x 12 by 16 ft. loft floor joists sitting directly on the rim plates .

Homestead Initiate
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2016 03:19pm
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Thanks everyone for your responses. I got it figured out. My inexperience proved my question to be unnecessary, not to mention odd.

The "loft beam" will simply rest on the top plate of the 8' wall (or whatever size wall I wish) - and will not be installed IN the wall as I mistakenly presumed.

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