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black_raven
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2015 05:13pm
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One of my other projects it to put up T&G pine siding - the cheap stuff that is thin and light. Would you use a brad gun w/ 18 gauge staples or use finishing nails w/ a nail gun? I guess both are around 1.25 inches long.
And anyone have experience w/ the hitachi compressor/brad nailer combo?
thanks
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black_raven
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2015 05:13pm
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Oh one other thing...it is going on top of existing drywall ceiling then into the studs.
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bldginsp
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2015 07:55pm
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I wouldn't use staples just cause you'll see the big hole they make, even if puttied. With T+G it's possible to hide the nails by nailing only on the tongue, as with flooring, but I wonder how well it would stay on the ceiling with this method. I'd use finish nails with a nailer, myself.
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Don_P
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2015 08:10pm
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Going through drywall I'd use a 16 guage finish gun with 2" nails. Prefinish the wood and if possible sticker it inside and run AC or dehumidifier for awhile to get the moisture content down to reduce shrinkage gaps. Prefinishing prevents an unfinished edge showing if it does shrink a bit. Crawling out onto the tongue a little bit with the nail also helps keep the nail head hidden if the wood shrinks in service.
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Martian
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2015 09:41pm
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I've done it both ways and found the nails heads pulled through/shot through the thin wood. A staple placed in the groove of the tongue held well. A bead of glue on the drywall before nailing would help if you nail.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2015 10:10pm
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You can get 16 gauge finish nails in 2" length. Because its overhead, I'd nail it to the ceiling joist. It will barely leave a mark. Brads may be too small and not long enough. Drive the nails in slightly sideways, and next one sideways in the opposite direction, no way will it come down
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black_raven
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2015 02:19pm
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Thanks All
as I was about to buy a new compressor/brad/nailer combo..the guy at the store said he thinks this will split the cheap thin siding everytime the gun fires. So that got me thinking adhesive only..but I doubt that would hold.
So I think I might go with the brad gun w/ 18 g staples as
Martian recommends. I guess i'll find out either way. Also I can use the nailer to put up siding outside eventually.
thanks
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Don_P
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2015 10:57pm - Edited by: Don_P
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I'm not particular as to guage or staple vs nail but I would try to get an inch of penetration into the ceiling joists. Remember you are driving at about a 45 degree angle unless you are face nailing. Hanging that amount of weight on just the drywall screws is a recipe for a ceiling collapse. You should be able to adjust the drive depth on the gun to avoid the punch through described above. If not, prior to depth adjustment we did it by lowering the air pressure to the gun, not as good a method since the density of the wood varies so much.
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toofewweekends
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2015 01:31am
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I used 1.5" into ceiling & wall studs/rafters w/o dry wall. Has held nicely for 5+ years in a cabin that goes below freezing for weeks at a time. Mostly nailed the tongue with a few face nailed where there was limited space. I did mine with hammer... so an occasional hit finger was the only damage.
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cbright
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2015 01:57pm - Edited by: cbright
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I used 16 gauge 2" nails into 2"x6"s ... worked like a charm and super easy to put up. If going through drywall, just use the longest you nail gun will take. P.S. I pre-finished all the wood before putting up (as suggested above)
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black_raven
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2015 09:49pm
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Thanks Don_P...i didn't think of that. I'm ok with face nailing as it is a pretty rustic off-grid cabin.
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