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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2013 10:55pm - Edited by: farmboy4413
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Hey guys, I'm 16 years old and want to move out of my house, but I'm not ready to buy a house. I want to build a small cabin in my woods that I can fit my twin bed, a woodstove, plus have a little extra room in and I need help on idea's and pricing. I can buy new wood from the lumber store. I have some skill in carpentry, but I'm not a pro. I go to vocational highschool and I was thinking that this would be a good way to live at home, but not have to be in the house all the time. I live on 7 acres with woods and I was planning to build it in the woods. A couple of my friends are going to help me. I just wanted to know what people thought about the idea and if it's really worth it. I also need a place away from my house to be with my girlfriend and drink with friends and stuff and I feel this would be a perfect place!
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2013 11:19pm
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Farmboy, I know of an exact scenario, where a teenager built a small log home on his parents property after attending the Log Home Builders Association log home school.
Go here to see it.
http://www.loghomebuilders.org/student-log-home/built-by-a-teenager
Notice the "butt/pass" joints, makes for a much easier built.
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2013 11:34pm
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That's a realllyyy nice cabin, I was thinking of just a small like 10x8x7ft cabin made out of wood planks because I don't have a lot of logs around. Just big enough for my bed, woodstove, and a little space to hang out in.
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2013 11:48pm
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toyota_mdt_techThat's a realllyyy nice cabin, I was thinking of just a small like 10x8x7ft cabin made out of wood planks because I don't have a lot of logs around. Just big enough for my bed, woodstove, and a little space to hang out in.
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MJW
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 04:13pm
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Well, don't know if I can think of a better reason to build a cabin. hahahahaha............
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Martian
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 04:51pm - Edited by: Martian
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Quoting: farmboy4413 I also need a place away from my house to ---- my girlfriend and drink with friends and stuff and I feel this would be a perfect place!
Take appropriate precautions or you might be building a bigger cabin quicker than you'd like!
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 05:51pm
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hahahahahaha I see what ya did there ;)
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neb
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 06:34pm
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LOL!! Have fun and happy building.
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 06:41pm
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I need tips on the cost and how big tho
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neb
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 06:52pm
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If you are going to insulate and wire you will looking at 28 to 30 bucks a square foot and that is if you do all the work.
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Martian
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 06:58pm - Edited by: Martian
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BTW, Farmboy, there are a lot of nice ladies on here. They may not appreciate your choice of words referring to sex. Its not that I'm a prude, but some things aren't appropriate for mixed company. Would you be offended if I asked you to edit it out? Thanks.
Tom
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rockies
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 07:05pm
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The simplest shape would be an 8 foot wide by 12 foot long shed style with a low slope (maybe 3/12 pitch) .Basically what the author of this site built (see "Build Cabin" at left). However, whatever you build don't let your friends talk you into doing something cheap and poorly built because at first they are all excited to have a drinking hangout but when they actually start to help you build it they get bored and tired and make you cut back on construction details so that it falls apart after one winter. Do research and put your money into making it water tight. You can finish the inside as you get older, and who knows, you may be using it with your kids one day.
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 07:30pm
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No problem Martian!
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 07:33pm
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Hey "rockies". I appreciate your feedback and I was going to make it watertight because winters over here can be bad. I was thinking about raising it off the ground like a foot. And I will definitely check that "Build Cabin" part of the site out! Thanks!
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Martian
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2013 07:50pm
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Thanks, Farmboy.
Now, lets talk about this cabin of yours. What is your climate like? Are you planning on this being an "all-seasons" place? As for size, I'd build something about 10'X12'. A shed roof, metal, is a good idea. What kind of siding do you plan on using?
Tom
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silverwaterlady
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2013 09:07am
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OK young man. I guess all the other adults here decided to MTOB except me. I find it very sad the reasoning behind your wanting a cabin. 
The choices you make now are going to have an effect on your entire life. Choose wisely!
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2013 08:38pm
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Tom-I was planning on an all seasons cabin. In the winter, it gets down to a few degrees below zero and summer it hits 100, but is usually around 80 in the summer and 20 in the winter.
I wasn't sure what to use for siding, I was just gunna do like 1x4's around and then plywood to fill in the gaps between the wood, idk really how to go about doing it.
Also my buddy says I should bury it in the ground a few feet to keep it warm in the winter and cool during the summer, but i was thinking i should raise it above the ground. i need help haha
Ben
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Martian
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2013 09:05pm
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If you've a step enough slope, and don't mind a little digging, go for it! It will be easier to heat if its below grade, but its such a small space, a wood stove is going to drive you out, or at least to opening a window. There is also the problem of keeping ground water out if you go below grade.
Above grade, you put in your piers, cut notches for the banding, and build. Hopefully, you paid attention in class, math or shop, and know how to square the structure using diagonal measurements. Surely, you know what good framing looks like. If not, Google it and learn.
Do your homework. Go to the lumber yard and learn what standard sizes are. Check prices on different materials. Go on line and study. The more of this you do, the better off you will be.
There is a lot of knowledge to be gained, if you apply yourself to this task of yours. I will be here to help you, but you need to learn the basics on your own. I already know how to build pretty much anything, but it is a skill attained thru knowledge, experience, and attention to detail. Once you learn enough to ask intelligent questions, I will do my best to answer them. But, I'm not going to tell you how to do this. You need to learn how and why things are done a certain way. When you get to the point that you need to decide between several options, I will give you the benefit of my experience. I ill not tell you what to do. This is your project; you get to the make the decisions and you get to live with them. 
BTW, that applies to your motivation for doing this, too. I know how seductive women can be...believe me! But, every choice you make influences where you end up in life. As Silverwaterlady said, make your choices wisely.
Tom
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WeekEndHack
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2013 11:17pm
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go for it FarmBoy!
Just make sure you know what your getting into before you do it. Make sure you're up for it as its a ton of work, especially if you haven't done this kind of thing before.
I find I need to do a ton of research on everything to compensate for my lack of experience. One thing I do is focus on the next step all the time, break the job down into chunks to keep it manageable.
If I was in your shoes I'd probably do a bit bigger, 10x14 maybe, sounds like you want a bit of a sleeping area & living area (A woodstove and a bed are going to chew up your space fast). Dont go too small.
good luck!
Steve
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Sustainusfarm
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2013 12:06am
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No comment...
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2013 10:13pm
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Thanks Steve and Tom! Steve, I was thinking of going bigger, too.
Tom, I understand what you're saying and I'm doing research every night and I have already learned a lot! I am gunna do the posts sunday with a few buddies and then put down gravel so snakes and wetness won't be under the cabin.
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Martian
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2013 11:17pm
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Quoting: farmboy4413 I am gunna do the posts sunday with a few buddies and then put down gravel so snakes and wetness won't be under the cabin.
Snakes, and wetness, will get you in trouble very time, but I'd be more worried about those IN the cabin! LOL
What did you decide on for size and type of post? How big have you decided to make it? How far off the ground will you build, and how deep are you setting the post?
Tom
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Canuck Mom
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# Posted: 15 Sep 2013 04:22pm
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Underage drinking and a woodstove?? Make sure you have a very good size egress window. Safety first.
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neb
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# Posted: 15 Sep 2013 05:57pm
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farmboy4413
Let us know how it is going? Can you take a few pictures of the shack and your progress?
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 15 Sep 2013 07:30pm
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Quoting: Canuck Mom Make sure you have a very good size egress window. Safety first.
That would be a window with the sill or bottom no more than 36" from the floor and wide enough to get a body through it, perfect to bail out in case of a rip snort'n cabin fire...
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 15 Sep 2013 09:51pm
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Thanks for explaining that, Toyota! 
Neb-I am getting an Iphone then and I will take pictures!
Thanks mom lol
Tom- we didnt get the posts in this weekend, just been very busy, will try next weekend. We were gunna do em 6ft down and the cabin will be 3 feet off the ground. We are planning to use logs, but we might be able to get old telephone poles to use. The cabin is gunna be 10x14 with a loft and porch.
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Martian
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# Posted: 15 Sep 2013 10:25pm
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Getting pretty ambitious there, Farmboy.
I think the telephone poles are a great idea. Six feet deep should be sufficient...maybe overly so, but better safe than sorry, if you have a way of digging that deep. It would be easier to expand the footprint than to add a loft, BTW.
Tom
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neb
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# Posted: 19 Sep 2013 08:20am
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farmboy4413
Just checking in with you. How is the biuld going?
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farmboy4413
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# Posted: 22 Sep 2013 06:39pm
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We dug the holes, now we are working on getting the telephone poles. goin good so far! i decide to go down 4 feet instead of 6
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neb
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# Posted: 22 Sep 2013 07:57pm
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LOL! I bet it was a little hard digging? You stay out of trouble and keep us posted.
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