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jenellespencer
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2012 11:15pm
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Here is a link to my cabin design. I would like to know what you think. It's not very small - 28x44- but it has been a dream of mine for a while. I really like the design program. Its easy to use and has 3D views.
The name of the game is cost saving measures. I am building it in Island Park, Idaho which is my little slice of heaven. I bought the lot with the foundation already in place so I had to build to fit.
Any cost saving ideas or constructive criticism is welcome!
http://www.homestyler.com/designer/3b732587-508b-4069-9079-516b0e699f61
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Rifraf
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2012 11:26pm
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Looks big 
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Rebel300r
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 12:57am
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I have been through the Island Park area many times and love it. Nice location. I think if it was mine and I had to build that size, I would combine the two small bedrooms into one. Look forward to hearing how it goes.
Scott
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jenellespencer
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 01:19am
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Thanks for the input. I thought I could maximize sleeping space by cutting down the sq footage on the two bedrooms. I also eliminated closets because I don't plan on needing them. It should cut down on materials, labor, and wasted space.
I will occasionally rent it out as well so I would like to have as many beds as possible. Hopefully nobody will be hanging out in the cabin in such a beautiful area 
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OwenChristensen
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 07:47am
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Is there a good reason to have the hallway all the way to the left end? That area could be better used as bedroom or closet.
I'd like to rent your cabin in Feb.
Owen
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PA_Bound
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 08:48am
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Another peice of feedback concerning the two small bedrooms.
The way the rooms are sized, the beds you have in them are basically "boxed in" on three sides. As my wife educated me when I was working on my cabin design, this makes the beds very difficult for the person closest to the wall to get in-to and out-of, and also makes the bed very difficult to re-make after sleeping in it.
I would suggest either re-orienting the beds so the heads are against the outside wall (with the window). That should leave at least a little room on each side for access. Or, since you have other beds, how about making them bunk-beds?
Also... are you concerned about heating this place? How are you going to heat those back bedrooms, that appear so far from the upper-right corner heat source?
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TheCabinCalls
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 10:05am
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Thoughts: without knowing where the sun or views are.
- door or window at the end of the kitchen run
- add a pantry to cabinet run on the wall and move the sink to the island. it is better to have a view when you are washing dishes or talking with guests
- remove the first small bedroom and turn that space into a sleeping alcove that can double as a sofa/seating during the day. You can still rent it out as sleeping space, but it is functional day and night.
- this would allow you to make the next bedroom a little bigger to turn the bed
- bathroom; i like trying to get a wash sink outside, but it isn't terribly functional like it is. You could swap the water heater with the one outside sink and then someone could get fully ready inside the bathroom and other can use the outside sink.
- see if there is a way to work in a half bath to the back bedroom.
- as mentioned above the space at the end of the hall is wasted space. Use it for closet, sleeping alcove or half bath.
It looks really great and cozy, but think about minor tweaks. Look for places to build in storage too. Also think about sun and wind movement for wndow placement. Have fun!!
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MtnDon
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 10:20am
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Ditto the comment on the beds. Also, no closets?
Seems to me if that is a fireplace in upper right that is where the "living" area should be, not the dining.
Foundation is there? never built on or from a tear down? What type?
Comment on the heating is right on... or will there be a central furnace; if so where?
And yes the hall should not dean end like that unless it is for an emergency / backdoor.
Door: where is front door? Where do the coats, boots, etc go when not being worn?
Doors to bedrooms are inefficient when located as drawn. The space behind the door when it is opened in hard to get at. IMO, put the doors in a corner space so when opened it is against a wall.
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jenellespencer
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 09:29pm
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Thanks for the input. I made some changes and I'm still considering other parts that were mentioned.
The foundation was poured by the previous owner and never used. The utilities were paid to bring power, sewer, and water but they were obviously never connected all the way.
The cabin will have small Cadet electrical heaters in every room. Its pretty common in Island Park but I don't know that it is common anywhere else. My buddy is a cabinet expert so I figured I would make a rough guess at what might work in the kitchen and leave it up to him. I do like the added pantry cabinet.
I also changed the hallway and the 4th bedroom. I like the idea of having a bedroom alcove with maybe a day bed or something similar in there. I figured having two bifold doors would work well on the outside of it. The end of the hallway I changed to make it a lockable closet for the personal items when the cabin is being rented. I still don't think I need closets. I did add the coat closet in the front room.
I'm still don't know what the best option would be for the bathroom. Considering that I'm trying to save money, only having one bathroom is great. Having two sinks outside the bathroom make it more efficient.
Anything else?
Spencer
P.S. Owen, I would love to rent the cabin to you in February but you would be sleeping on 10 feet of snow. I'm not ready to build yet.
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jenellespencer
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2012 10:54pm
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Here is the link again.
http://www.homestyler.com/designer/3b732587-508b-4069-9079-516b0e699f61
Spencer
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2012 09:08am
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How about shifting the interior 90 degrees, so the open space is at the bottom, bedrooms/bathroom along the back, no hallway. More open feeling. I'd try to make bathroom and kitchen plumbing all fit into one interior wall, it gets cold in Idaho and an interior wall would be better to prevent freezing in winter. (you could just move toilet location now) and include a wash room too. The 2 doors into the far bedroom is curious. What about a closet for washer/dryer?. Dimensions are good and cost saving as is the shape. I'd play around with floor payout a little more, for cost savings and to give you most spacious feeling.
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hakalugi
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2012 11:19pm
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nice.
what's the reason for the 2 bathroom sinks open to the hallway?
since it's slab on grade, and no basement, you'll need a utility room - water heater for these bathrooms? you mention baseboard heating, so electical panel, too. with 6+ beds, washer/dryer?
what roof style?
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jenellespencer
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2012 05:20am
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I had the plumbing pretty compact and then I moved the sink. I plan on having vaulted ceilings so I don't think I can shift the bedrooms to all be on one side. I gues it might save more money if the ceilings aren't vaulted. I'll have to play around with the idea and maybe try another drawing.
hakalugi: The two sinks are in the hallway because there are a lot of beds and only one bathroom. This will make the bathroom more effecient (especially since I have three daughters). I can be showering while my girls are doing whatever it is that girls do in front of the mirrors.
Right now I have the washer inside the bathroom as well as the water heater (green thing).
Thanks for the input. I appreciate it.
Spencer
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jenellespencer
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2012 06:21am
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Here is a stab at a cabin as suggested above. All the bedrooms are on the top and the open area is below. The ceilings are not vaulted. I gotta say, I don't like this one as much. It just seems like no-man's-land between the kithen and living room. Maybe I could do something different.
http://www.homestyler.com/designer/3b732587-508b-4069-9079-516b0e699f61
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TheCabinCalls
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2012 10:42am
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Check out Ross Chapin's website: http://www.rosschapin.com/Plans/Houses/Gable/Gable.html
We modified this design to fit our needs. There are a ton of small designs on this page and he really uses small spaces well; built-ins, built-in furniture, etc.
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OwenChristensen
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2012 09:04pm
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jenellespencer
I come to IP most years to ride snowmobiles into the Jefferson and Taylor areas. We really like it there.
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jenellespencer
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2012 10:15pm
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Island park is the best. I would only add one thing: a natural hot springs. Is that too much to ask?
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