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davjohns
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2025 03:56am
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I am a big believer in efficiency. I am interested in building a small guest house / cabin on some property I have. I looked at online offerings for portable park models. It seems they all have a bit of hallway or similar that take up useable space. I am more inclined to think a linear design bedroom, living area combined with kitchen area, and bath on the opposite end of the bedroom is most efficient. Put french doors or other glazed openings along one wall and you have the feeling of more space without wasted space. Make the dimensions efficient for building materials - say 12ft by 36ft, and you should see some efficiencies there. I do not see this in the offerings online. What am I missing?
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davjohns
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2025 03:59am - Edited by: davjohns
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I found this design online, but they want $94k. Seems excessive to me. Should be buildable for half that...or less. https://mylakesidecabins.com/modern-park-model/
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Brettny
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2025 06:19am
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That's quite expensive but that's also the not getting your hands dirty price. That's never the price I persoanly go for.
We built a 20x32 1.5 story cabin, foundation to roof and will be completed for about $30k. This is 2023-2025 prices.
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DRP
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2025 07:37am
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Quoting: Brettny that's also the not getting your hands dirty price.
I like that. One old carpenter's spitball pricing strategies was to take the price of materials and double it to cover labor. On some aspects of the job that works, on other's it'll eat your lunch laborwise... so you are probably not too far off.
If you are doing the labor, who cares if that is accurate. If you are hiring the labor I'd sharpen a pencil before assuming that the cost is excessive.
There is no foundation in that price but from there up it looks impressive. It's on full length steel beams strong and stiff enough to take it over the road, I've never framed that out of wood. Steel pan underfloor, sprayfoam and "well appointed".
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2025 08:34am
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About a year ago we priced just a garage type cement pad to put our coming prebuilt 12x28 log cabin on; it was $4-5K.
Btw, our is one big open space. We didn't want 'patio doors' because that eats up that wall for furniture placement options but we did go with big windows, most at the best view end of the cabin. No regrets.
I thought about a 'park model' early on but only would need that heavy duty frame one time, the delivery. And the prices were  .
Have you checked with your local authority for what regs, restrictions and codes you will need to follow?
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paulz
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2025 09:09am
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Quoting: davjohns I am more inclined to think a linear design bedroom, living area combined with kitchen area, and bath on the opposite end of the bedroom is most efficient.
Sounds good.
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DRP
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2025 05:15pm - Edited by: DRP
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They were constrained by shipping width. Is linear more efficient than a 2 room deep design with a front full width room connected directly to 2 rooms, bed/bath, behind that?
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Brettny
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2025 07:48am
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Quoting: gcrank1 About a year ago we priced just a garage type cement pad to put our coming prebuilt 12x28 log cabin on; it was $4-5K
For refrence that's roughly 5yrds of concrete at 4.5in thick. The highest I have found concrete out of the truck here was $250yrd. I have paid as little as $165 in the last 2yrs. A 12x28' slab is $1250 in concrete at $250yrd. If its polished or thickened edge, has rebar or insulation under it the price would go up. It's a fairly simple job pouring a rectangle though.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2025 10:02am
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That was dirt work, the pad c/w that thicker outside edge and rebar.
Fwiw, just my modest bringing in and spreading gravel driveway work last year was $1600. Iirc it was about 7yds?
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