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Thepatriot518
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2023 11:46am
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I just closed on 3 acres of land in the Adirondack Park. The land has an APA approved plan for a septic system and a single family home.
I do not plan on putting in a septic or a single family home.
My plan is to put in a 14x36 pre-built camp. This will be completely off grid with solar and generator. Can I put this on pressure treated 6x6 skids? How many would I need? I am thinking 3, running the length of the cabin.
My thought was to first put down a framed out compacted gravel pad that would be framed in pressure treated. Then have the shed place drop the cabin on the compacted gravel.
Of course this is pending approval of the local zoning board. If they deny, I will be putting in a 10x30 tiny house on wheels.
Any thoughts or comments would be a big help.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2023 03:35pm
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You need to contact the APA. You paid extra for the property because it was approved for that site plan..why not put something more substantial on it than a large shed?
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Thepatriot518
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 03:41am
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If I put up something more substantial, they will require a well, septic, commercial electricity and a pile of building code requirements that will add almost $40k to a place I will only use on weekends. Hard to justify that at my age.
I am just looking for a weekend getaway not a new home.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 10:14am - Edited by: gcrank1
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14x36 is, imo, 'pretty substantial', but if they will let you do that big go for it. Make sure you are on 'good ground'.
Get approval in writing.
For the two of us our 1st cabin (for 30+ yrs) was 12x24 c/w a 12x12 loft. Our 2nd, and current one, is 16x24, one story, one big open room, and we much prefer it as the loft became difficult as we took injuries and aged. It is all the room we need for comfort, off-grid, dry, diy elec, rain barrel for utility water/potable we bring in, diy compost T.
Ymmv
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Thepatriot518
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 12:44pm - Edited by: Thepatriot518
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Gcrank - I would love to have 16x24 but I have another voice that wants 14x36. So we are going 14x36! LOL It is not a shed. It is a pre-built log cabin that will come in on a truck.
It sounds like you are doing the same as our plan. Off grid, haul in drinking water. Use rain water for shower/sink. We have a Natures Head for the toilet. Going with solar and backup with a 3000 watt inverter generator. Wiring the house for 110.
Is your place on piers or skids? Any opinion on how many skids I should have (if allowed)?
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 01:02pm
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Quoting: Thepatriot518 Is your place on piers or skids? Any opinion on how many skids I should have (if allowed)?
It is going to depend on how the cabin is constructed. You need some sort of support everywhere the cabin is designed to transfer load to the ground.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 03:41pm
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Quoting: Thepatriot518 LOL It is not a shed. It is a pre-built log cabin that will come in on a truck
Why not put a proper foundation under it?
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 03:46pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if the cabin was built on skids already.....I would talk to your dealer about how they build them and what they need to place it on your lot...
I would probably recommend putting it on a concrete slab, but I understand that may be cost prohibitive...
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Thepatriot518
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 04:33pm
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APA rule to keep it a "hunting/fishing" cabin is to be on a non-permanent foundation. Piers, posts or gravel. And I am not even confident about the gravel. Waiting on an opinion.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 07:57pm
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I live in. NYS. Piers, post and gravel are allowed. I believe piers are considered concrete sono tubes. Typicaly the ADKs is so sandy that going to frost depth with sono tubes may not be needed but you will really have to talk to who ever is going to give you the stop work order or fail your inspection.
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2023 08:36pm
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The builder will have a 'shedule spec' for what is needed beneath. And that will be affected by the ground composition and condition you put it on.
If they are somewhat local to your site they may have the info you want.
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