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paulz
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 01:44pm
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Last night while walking the dog by the school behind my city house, where they are finishing some construction work, I noticed a pallet with sacks of Quickcrete next to the dumpster. On this morning's walk I asked about it. Take it! 15 80lb. sacks. Do I need Quickcrete at the moment? No. Am I a scrounger? Probably.
So I got back, looked up Quickcrete, only about 4 bucks a bag, wouldn't even cover the chiropractor copay. Then I noticed this is 'Extra Strength' Quickcrete, closer to 10 bucks a bag. That's better..
So, what's the dif?
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ICC
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 02:20pm - Edited by: ICC
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What is the product number on the bag?
Never mind that, I see the same number of different size bags. What's with that?
How or where do you get the higher price you quoted is a better question I think
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paulz
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 02:26pm
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1101. High strength, not extra strength
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ICC
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 02:29pm
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How many PSI is listed on the bag?
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ICC
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 02:32pm
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1101 should be listed as 4000 PSI. Nothing special about it
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ICC
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 02:37pm
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Sometimes the bags of 1101 include the wording "high strength" and sometimes they don't. Different plants I guess. According to Quikrete all 1101 are 4000 PSI and even on their webpages they use different labeling on 1101
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/concretemix.asp
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/data_sheet-concrete%20mix%201101.pdf
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paulz
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 02:43pm
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Here
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paulz
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 02:46pm
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Looks like maybe it just costs more at Ace.
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Brettny
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 03:17pm
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That stuff lasts about 30days here with our high humidity then it's for ever the shape of the bag.
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ICC
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 04:38pm
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Yep. Even in the usually low humidity desert it eventually absorbs enough moisture to become s block, albeit a crumbly one.
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paulz
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# Posted: 17 Aug 2021 05:24pm
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Quit raining on my parade!
I'll start on a bird bath tomorrow.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 25 Aug 2021 03:13pm
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Quoting: paulz Quit raining on my parade!
Always "a stick in the mud" somewhere. 
Good find for the price. 
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paulz
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# Posted: 25 Aug 2021 08:24pm
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Ha, I was just joking. I've stored bags before that turned solid, and some that haven't. If these do they'll make good fill..
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NorthRick
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# Posted: 26 Aug 2021 03:39pm
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I wrapped bags of portland cement in plastic garbage bags and stored them for over a year under cover, but otherwise outside, and they were still good when I went to use them.
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Tim_Ohio
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2021 08:36am
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I found a use for the dried up, hard bags. I leave them laying around to throw in the bucket of the loader on the tractor when I need some front end ballast. Might be good pick-up truck bed ballast as well.
Other then that, I'm thinking a "cement pond" for the birds might be appreciated by the feathered critters.
I'm sorry, I watch too much of the Beverly Hillbillies.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2021 08:42am
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Quoting: paulz So, what's the dif?
6 bucks?
Use for retaining wall, just set them up like sandbags, wet down, rain etc will finish it, nice tight wall.
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paulz
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2021 08:23pm
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Well I checked the bags today, still loose but it's mighty humid in this rain. They are dry in my shop but I'm thinking maybe a bucket of desiccant and a tarp over it?
I do have plans for it but might have to wait out the winter.
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paulz
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2022 11:23am - Edited by: paulz
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So I see by my last post I scored this free quickcrete about 9 months ago. I just felt a bag, felt hard, darn. But, I opened it, dumped it in a wheelbarrow, surprisingly still good, a few baseball sized chunks that broke up easily. Probably good until winter.
I was reading that some folks dump the dry concrete in a hole, then just let rain, ground water or put water on top to harden. Seems logical, since it will harden in the bag just from humidity. But, do you really get the strength vs. mixing it?
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FishHog
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2022 11:28am
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Quoting: paulz But, do you really get the strength vs. mixing it?
no but if its used in a spot where you need more fill than strength it works. Mixing it properly is the correct way if you need optimum strength
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Tim_Ohio
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2022 11:52am - Edited by: Tim_Ohio
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I might add, the less water used, the stronger the finished product. Only use what is necessary to make it workable, not like soup. Some people use too much water to make it easier to mix by hand. This is the wrong approach.
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jsahara24
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# Posted: 6 Jul 2022 09:34am
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I've never liked pouring dry concrete in without at least adding some water into the hole and mixing it around. In situations where I don't need perfection I pour some in dry, then some water, then dry, then water, etc. Tamp it down with a 2x4 and get it pretty well mixed.
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paulz
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# Posted: 6 Jul 2022 09:59am - Edited by: paulz
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Well I set my posts yesterday, heeding Fish and Tim's advice and mixing it in the wheelbarrow. 10 bags by lunchtime, got it done but the back was feeling it, end of work day, hard work at least.
I did a lot of debating (with myself) over using concrete due to post rot but decided if it goes 10 years I'll be happy, or dead, plus I can always cut them at ground level and use brackets in concrete or something. Dang thing is too tall now anyway.
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