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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2019 08:10pm
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Quoting: SCSJeff I see what you're saying now... Regarding the bowing. ie: Still need something in the middle to support it.
Rafter ties will do that. Then you wont have the outward pressure. I did both (brackets and rafter ties, and collar ties).
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Brettny
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# Posted: 2 Apr 2019 08:08am
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Having access to a small 120v welder would really make building with a shipping container alot easier and quicker. Less holes, less hardware and you can attach brackets to areas that you cant get to the other side.
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SCSJeff
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2019 08:49pm
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Steve,
Thanks for the picture. I prefer the idea of drilling through the side better than the roof too
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2019 08:33am
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Quoting: SCSJeff I prefer the idea of drilling through the side better than the roof too
That top member is a squared HD tube too, so those holes on the side do not go through. Same for the 4 corners, those vertical post and square beams is the structure to carry the loads from stacking, so stout and 2 sided. I ran my T1-11 flush with the bottom of those beams to blend it in with the waved sides, the hex bolts sticking out, you may need to cut reliefs for your siding for it to fit over the bolts (just set siding up, hit with hammer, then drill out holes large enough for hex heads to fit) then sheet over, fill with sealer, paint.
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SCSJeff
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2019 09:03am
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Steve961
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2019 11:11am
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Here are my current plans for a container roof. It's more of a pole barn style with rafters, purlins, and steel panels - pretty much the same as my container cabin. I also plan on not enclosing it, which I'm hoping doesn't attract too many pests like birds and wasps. ContainerRoof.jpg
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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2019 03:27pm
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I’ve sometimes thought that it would be neat to get two containers and space them apart 16-18 feet.
Put one roof over both to create a car port and eventually add a back wall and a 16’ garage door in between.
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Bruces
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2021 08:17pm
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First time I read this thread ,there is a company making adapters that get bolted into the corners of the shipping containers to attach things to them like your roof system ,and others that are actually wheels so you can move the containers around easily yourself.A google search should find them .A handy guy could watch the videos and copy the simple design . I own several containers and I paint them with gripper paint using my gas powered sprayer ,some have been over 10 years and still look great .
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2021 09:55pm
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Ive seem a few pairs around here with the 'carport' between, looked like they simply used truss rafters bridging across. Painted up and with metal roofing it all could look pretty much like a typical pole building.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2021 10:00pm
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I would like to see others container storage/shed etc and if you added roofs too. Post pictures. This older thread was revived, so now I am curious if SCJeff did his container install too.
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SCSJeff
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2021 08:07am
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Toyota,
Unfortunately, No... I'm still lugging machines back and forth
As it turned out, my cousin's rollback wasn't big enough and then I didn't have anyone I knew that could haul it. I got a couple of quotes for a professional mover and the cost was insane. So I ended up passing on the container and one of my co-workers took it.
Now I'm debating just getting a beat up enclosed trailer to just leave there... Will save me on taxes that way too
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2021 08:49am
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SCSJeff, the guy who hauled mine just used a 20 foot flatbed trailer, he had a high lift jack and 2 large chunks of 3" pipe, wider than trailer deck. The trailer had a winch on the front of it. I ran my add to move it on craigslist and a guy responded. He hauled it from auction yard to cuz's place and from there to cabin and plopped it right where I had it marked. He charged me 750 to haul it 250 miles. Nice guy.
You know they make 10 and 15 footers too. A pair of 15 footers side by side, roof over both, lots of options. Little easier to move.
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Irrigation Guy
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2021 09:43am
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SCSJeff
Quoting: SCSJeff Now I'm debating just getting a beat up enclosed trailer to just leave there... Will save me on taxes that way too
What do you mean by this? You will get taxed on container? Where is your property?
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Brettny
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2021 11:20am
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I saw the 10' ones and even priced one out. There only going to save you a few hundred bucks over a 20' also there nearly impossible to find used and not a one trip. So spend a few hundred more on a 20' and a few hundred more to move it. Drives the price per square foot down prety low. For the 10 or even 15' containers it may be cheaper to call a shed company. You also get something delivered that looks like a shed and not a container. Although the security and rodent proof aspects of a container are hard to beat.
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SCSJeff
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2021 07:30am
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Quoting: Irrigation Guy What do you mean by this? You will get taxed on container? Where is your property?
Not on shipping container, no. But, since I missed out on that, my next cheapest option was to just get a shed delivered. It would look nicer and I wouldn't have to do any work to it. However, a shed would be taxed.
Strange... a shipping container is not considered permanent and a shed is. But, a shed is a whole lot easier to move around
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2021 11:51am
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My toolshed/powerhouse is a nicely built 8x12 ice shanty built on an expanded pop-up camper frame. On wheels so not taxable, and movable about the property. But each time I do jack it up and block it to get the weight off the tires. I priced similar sized pre-built portable buildings and bought this for about the same price and am way satisfied with my choice. Thinkin outside the box for the box worked for me.
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toyota_mdt_tech
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2021 12:12pm - Edited by: toyota_mdt_tech
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Quoting: gcrank1 My toolshed/powerhouse is a nicely built 8x12 ice shanty built on an expanded pop-up camper frame. On wheels so not taxable...
Whoa, an idea, how about a regular toolshed and add a fake axle under it, even fenders, so it looks mobile for the tax man???
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2021 12:18pm
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Dont forget the faux tongue! Btw, the rear axle from a bunch of small front wheel drive cars is solid, and likely cheap at an auto salvage yard. A wider one is a wide beam mobil home axle. Dont forget to add a door fish
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SCSJeff
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2021 02:17pm
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Hmm...
There's plenty of old pop-up trailers around for cheap or free. but, I don't want to deal with scrapping it. If I can find a frame around cheap, that is tempting...
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KinAlberta
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# Posted: 28 Mar 2022 04:33pm - Edited by: KinAlberta
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Hmm. “…so it looks mobile for the tax manâ€
Crank it up. Hide plywood sheathing behind the old canvas walls and you’ll got yourself a nice little shed/workshop (with handy queen-sized storage areas at either end).
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Asher
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# Posted: 29 Mar 2022 01:33am - Edited by: Asher
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I'm fighting to drag mine up into the woods now.. Being a "one man show" makes for slow progress..
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 29 Mar 2022 11:30am
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Use a tractor?
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Asher
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# Posted: 30 Mar 2022 11:28am - Edited by: Asher
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I would love to but I am afraid my old tractor would do a back flip trying to pull that thing and I need to pull it a little bit, wiggle it between tight trees, and keep stacking logs, etc to keep it elevated off the ground so it doesn't hook on a buried boulder or flush cut stump... So far my best method is anchoring my jeep to a tree and using the 9k winch, but it was enough to break the winch cable last time out, it almost stalls the winch out (even doubling the line up using a pulley)... Container2.jpg
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gcrank1
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# Posted: 30 Mar 2022 11:44am
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Beware flinging broken cables! They can kill you quick. Imo, if you have been sorta successfully anchoring the Jeep and using the winch your tractor will do better. As to 'flipping it', that will depend upon what place you put the tractor end pull. The flip comes from the tractor rotating at the rear axle with a rear hook-up. Hook farther forward and it keeps the front end down. That said, I grew up on a farm and have had a front come up more than a few times, never a flip. Be ready to cutch it and the front comes right down. We did do some heavy pulls over some distance with the front off the ground too, scary the first time for sure.
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paulz
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# Posted: 30 Mar 2022 11:53am
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I got mine up my steep driveway and around the trees. Had a friend in a truck in front pulling and me behind in a tractor pushing. Being able to push the back sideways was a big help getting through the trees.
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Asher
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# Posted: 30 Mar 2022 11:56am - Edited by: Asher
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Yes thanks.. yep always keep clear of those cables (use the wireless remote and stand out of the kill zone). This one broke and sent the hook and d ring into the bumper of the truck near by, denting it in about 4inches and almost taking out the A/C condenser, air-charge cooler, and radiator (had to fish the hook out from between them).. If I had a second capable hand I would put the bobcat on the back end with the forks and try to lift and push a little bit... But again, doing things solo, adds about 4x's the amount of time to get things done.
I think the other thing adding to the fight is that this is a 40ft'er.. I tried using my hi-lift jack to raise one side and get a sliding log under there. I had my entire 230lb weight on the handle and still didn't lift the container. I was waiting for the shear pin on the jack to pop...
The next interesting challenge is going to be leveling it once I get it in place.. I am thinking using the bobcat putting as much lift in it as possible and then adding the hi-lift.. until I can get enough room to get a 20ton bottle jack in there...
Here is the only help I can count on.. LOL..
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