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RiverCabin
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2018 01:13pm
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https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/criminal-act-unlikely-behind-hood-canal-cab in-explosion-fire-that-left-5-dead-policy-say/
I have no idea what happened here but early reports indicate that it was probably gas.
I know as cabin folk we like to convince ourselves that we can build anything or figure out any problem. Please, if you are unqualified for electrical or gas or whatever, consider hiring a professional.
Also please install smoke detectors and CO detectors (if applicable) and install fire extinguishers. Personally I had never used a fire extinguisher (I am over 40) in my life until this spring when I had to use two. Remember the adage, two is one and one is none. I personally have three commercial 20 lbs. extinguishers in my 660 sq ft cabin.
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Borrego
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2018 12:02pm
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Yes, good idea and good reminder.......I will check my batteries and add another extinguisher..!!!
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justins7
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# Posted: 20 Jun 2018 03:34pm
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I really wonder what happened. It would be helpfult to know.
I use propane tanks, and try to be cautious.
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Cowracer
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# Posted: 20 Jun 2018 04:34pm
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If that was in Jefferson County Missouri, my first guess would be a meth lab that blowed up.
Tim
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2018 07:35pm
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We run propane for the fridge/lights/and stove, in our cabin. I ran the black iron from the tank outside to a black iron manifold inside and added a cut-off fitting, that if it sensed unregulated flow, it shuts them all down. With that, in the manifold I also installed shut-off valves for each take-off. The sensing valve would work if we aren't there and a line is broke, and the valves are great if we are there and want to isolate. All the valves and shutoffs are inside of the cabin (we had the previous copper lines stolen inside and out). Next up for us is battery smoke/CO detectors, since the cabin hasn't ever had any. We keep a fire ext. handy near the oven, just in case. I agree, safety first!!!
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KelVarnsen
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2018 08:30am
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Quoting: moneypitfeeder added a cut-off fitting, that if it sensed unregulated flow, it shuts them all down
Hey monepitfeeder can you post a link or a picture to the valve that you are talking about. I'd like to look into one for my propane piping plan that I'm working on. Also if you have picture of your manifold setup that would be great. Thanks.
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VC_YamahaRider
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2018 08:55am
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I am pretty sure our carbon monoxide detector saved my families life this past weekend. We arrived on Saturday evening and I installed a window air conditioner but since I am on solar, I have to run the AC off the generator. I had the generator running outside but on the attached concrete covered porch so just outside the front door. I started the generator around 9:30pm and it wasn't until 4:15am that the CO detector started going off. I also had the propane turned on which was running the pilot lights of our propane oven/stove. I immediately shut the propane and generator off and opened all windows and started a couple of box fans to get fresh air moving in the cabin. It took about 15 minutes for the detector to stop going off. I really wish I knew what caused it. I am thinking that maybe the fumes from the generator were filtering into the cabin some how because when I went outside on the porch to turn it off, the fume smell was really strong. In the morning I did put the generator further away from the cabin and started running the AC again and turned the propane oven back on and the CO detector never went off. Needless to say, I will be replacing the CO detector even though it is only 2 years old but it is one of the ones you can't replace the battery. It has one of those 10 year life lithium batteries in it. Not sure I will buy one of those again. I would feel better if i just replaced the battery every 6 months.
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Jebediah
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2018 09:42am - Edited by: Jebediah
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Quoting: VC_YamahaRider I am pretty sure our carbon monoxide detector saved my families life this past weekend
You should have your family screened by medical professionals...You may not be out of the woods yet no pun intended.
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2018 07:25pm
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To KelVarnsen,
In a couple of weeks I can post a pic of our setup, we can't get up to our cabin until the week before Labor Day, but I will be sure to take pics when we are there. The cut-off valve was purchased from Home Depot, but I'm sure other hardware stores carry them.
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2018 07:10pm
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Hi KelVarnsen,
Quick update, the valve that we purchased was this or very similar (part of a kit) https://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-3-ft-Gas-Range-Connector-Kit-with-Auto-Shut-Of f-MA-PM15X115DS/205558421, it was a small fitting that is normally installed in-line with a range line, I think I installed it before the manifold, but I will confirm when we are at our cabin.
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KelVarnsen
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2018 04:06pm
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Thanks for following up on this moneypit. I appreciate the info!
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ILFE
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2018 12:50am - Edited by: ILFE
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Quoting: RiverCabin Personally I had never used a fire extinguisher (I am over 40) in my life until this spring when I had to use two.
When I lived stateside, I always kept 2 - 10 ABC extinguishers behind the seat of my truck and mounted on top of each fender inside my Jeep YJ. I used them more than I can remember, to put out automobile and other fires I came upon back then.
Not sure why this is. But, here in SEA, they are much more expensive to buy, than they were in the US.
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moneypitfeeder
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2018 06:47pm
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Hi KelVarnsen,
I checked when we were up at our cabin, and I have 2 of the safety shut offs (one to the fridge, one to the stove) but I forgot to get one for the line for the gas lights. My manifold is really simple, blk iron line comes in, and splits for 3 purposes (fridge/stove/lights) but I have them all valved so we can shut them down or isolate each take-off. (The lights are the smaller 1/4 copper line that goes straight up) We only have 3 lights running off that line, used to have 5, but when our previous copper lines were stolen, we decided not to run lines to the bedrooms again. We shut the valves for the lights and the stove off every night and only keep the valve for the fridge open while we sleep.
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KelVarnsen
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2018 08:36am
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Thanks again moneypitfeeder for taking the time to post all the info and pictures. It will be helpful when I do some modifications to my current install.
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