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TomChum
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 01:58 - Edited by: TomChum
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Hello!
Here is my cabin. I am absolutely thrilled to have this at my time in life (with my kids). I bet a lot of folks on this forum feel the same about their cabins!
Its up high, in snow country, and sorry I'm not too comfortable telling the location. Incidentally the tax assessor found it during construction and assessed tax on it - I'm OK with that. I fear the day when the building dept. comes by to tell me to take it down. It's way out there, behind a locked gate, with no vehicle access for 6 months of the year, so it's somewhat safe as long as the taxman doesn't talk too much (or me).
I paid a local to build the structure then trimmed it out with help of friends & family. I used rough-cut lumber from a local sawyer. The shingles are hand-split cedar, and the gable ends are board and batten, with long, hand-split cedar planks. The roof is 1 1/2" thick wood (plus shingles), but the floor has R19 insulation. The foundation is 9 granite rocks. I constructed it under the goal that it should look 100 years old, so there is no visible modern materials (very little). But for now the wood all looks bright and new.
A water pipe from the creek runs outside onto the ground constantl. It flows 800 feet by gravityy, with 17 feet of head, at the rate of 1 gallon per minute. I had the water tested, and my "stream sample was safe to drink". The stream originates from a spring on a steep hillside about 2000 feet away (origin is in a cedar grove but off my property). I drank it all of Sept/Oct/Nov, and no problems, but since it's on the surface there's no assurance that it will always be safe. I'll build an outdoor sink at some point. The kitchen counter is made of rough cut doug fir, Grandpa-built, and the range is an RV unit by Atwood. No refer yet.
I bought the windows at a used building materials store. I have an 85W solar panel about 30 feet up a tree, charging 250Ah of batteries.
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Porch view
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Woodstove and dutch door
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TomChum
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 02:23 - Edited by: TomChum
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Here's the outhouse and a couple other views. The porch is 7x16 feet. It's empty because we have just cleaned it out to leave. When the family is there you don't even see the floor for all the gloves, boots and coats, firewood, groceries. It's a lot smaller than it looks in the pictures.
Cedar Outhouse
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Hideabed and ladder
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Night_lamplight_sofa.jpg
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SmlTxCabin
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 04:49
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WOW. That is absolutely beautiful. Nice cabin and pretty property. Sounds like you have a great retreat!
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Timberjack
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 07:15
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Looks like a picture postcard, truly a work of art!
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larry
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 07:35
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WOW ! that's great. sorry to hear about the tax man. on a brighter note now that it's up they can't make you take it down. Can we ask what state or provence you're in?
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TomChum
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 12:23 - Edited by: TomChum
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Thanks for the nice comments. .....It's in the continental USA, in the northwest corner state. ;-) Started end of June 2010, finished in November
It was kind of hard on my family, (while building it, I was obsessed, stayed out there for 2 weeks sometimes). Also difficult for them because there was no outhouse (just a grunt-bucket!). My girls are pretty hardy though, they just pick up a shovel and march off into the woods. We built the outhouse in mid-November and everyone is happier.
It was a profoundly satisfying project for me. I love being out in nature, and having a place to watch wildlife, look for tracks with my kids, cut firewood, ride dirtbikes, snowmobile in the winter, and sit with my wife on the porch.
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 15:45
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Just took a look at your cabin.....totally awesome. I think thats what I had in mind when I was building my cabin but financially I couldn't make it happen. How much did it cost ( If you don't mind my asking )?
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TomChum
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 16:04 - Edited by: TomChum
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I don't know the cost, didn't keep good track of it. Some things I didn't pay for, the Grampa-built stuff like the door, all the windowtrims, the kitchen counter, which would have been costly. The rough-cut lumber bill ended up costing 4 to 5 times (per BF cost) of buying regular lumber at the store! But it doesn't have any barcodes or grading inked on it.
The roof, for example was only 5 squares but the shakes were all hand-split, and they don't just lay down waiting for a nail. Plus there is a transition to a 3/12p over the porch which took a lot of thought. It took 4 days to put the shingles on which cost lot more money than I anticipated. In the beginning, everyone said, "Oh the roof will be on in one day".
I suspect it cost about 35k total. It was ~18k for the walls and roof structure. It cost a lot to get an excavator all the way out there to lift the logs. And with the excavator we did other valuable tasks like road repair, fire suppression, set bridge abutments, etc, it's really difficult to break it all out to cabin cost. I cringe a little at that number for under 200SF,,,, but it is really exactly what I wanted.
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fpw
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 16:56
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Nice...cabin. If you do the work yourself and have the trees on the property you can build this type of project for about 10K. However, you better have some time cause it ain't quick.
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nathanprincipe
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 19:54
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you deff acheived the "been there a 100yrs look"!
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hattie
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2011 23:25
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Absolutely gorgeous. You should be real proud of this :-)
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TomChum
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2011 00:41
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Quoting: fpw If you do the work yourself and have the trees on the property you can build this type of project for about 10K. However, you better have some time cause it ain't quick.
That was my original dream. You need a minimum one year to dry the logs. I was very impatient because my kids are the right age and not getting any younger. ;-) (me too)
Quoting: hattie IAbsolutely gorgeous. You should be real proud of this
Thank you.
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TomChum
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2011 16:02 - Edited by: TomChum
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Winter photo, about 15 inches snow on the ground. No insulation in the roof just boards .......
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elkdiebymybow
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2011 01:57
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Great Job! Any advice on chinking and staining or log preservation? I still need to do that, bought 'perma-chink' by Sashco last year but didn't get a chance to finish that up. I also bought a product to treat the wood for insects and such. I love how you did the loft rail and your door. Fantastic Job!
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TomChum
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2011 01:55
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We used permachink on the logs. Used a wet gloved finger to smooth the chink. Have not put any stain or finish on the outside yet. Was advised to let the logs breathe for a few months before staining. Maybe sometime this spring 2011. I did spray the entire outside with "Borate" to make it unhealthy beetlefood.
I did not use any stain on the inside, just one coat of varnish. I was advised to use only one coat, for longer life. You can see in the photos where I 'missed', the flash tells all on the railing and ceiling.
The floor has 3 coats of Daly's floorfin, an oilbase finish. The floor is rough cut doug fir boards of varying widths, nailed down onto 3/4" OSB. I sanded it very lightly to take the fuzz off then put on one coat. Then hand-sanded lightly to cut all the sharps off. Then 2nd and 3rd coat no more sanding. So the floor is kind of rough, but it can be swept or mopped.
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Anonymous
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2011 16:02
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I luv your sustainable log cabin....Im a single guy that loves the wilderness, and traveling....etc....Im planning a similar build....looking 2 spend 15,000....no need 4 a morgage here.....glad it worked out 4 ya....enjoy......Peace Puff
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TomChum
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2011 23:51 - Edited by: TomChum
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Thought some folks might like to see how I did my gable ends. Gables are covered with long, hand-split cedar shingles, in board-and-batten style. These are pretty small gable ends (cuz the cabin is only 12x16). The windows came from a used building materials store.
Under the cedar (not visible) is OSB on 2x6 framing with insulation.
Board and batten cedar shingles
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turkeyhunter
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# Posted: 11 Mar 2011 07:09 - Edited by: turkeyhunter
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the board and batten, gables look GREAT!!!!!! good job for sure, your camp is so nice. It looks so rugged but beautiful.
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Erins#1Mom
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# Posted: 11 Mar 2011 18:16
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It looks amazing. Very warm and happy as a cabin should.
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dvgchef
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2011 18:50
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Good for you - a real beauty. thanks for sharing.
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teakboat
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# Posted: 27 Mar 2011 20:39
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I like the proportions of it. I don't have the conifer logs so I couldn't exactly replicate it, but I sure like it.
What is the roof pitch?
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TomChum
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# Posted: 27 Mar 2011 21:35
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Roof pitch is 8/12 and 3/12 on the porch
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Montanan
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2011 16:08
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Thanks for all the info- and the photos. It looks great. We're doing something similar, but paying the builder to actually put in pier blocks and set the log shell (should take place in 3 weeks, if the snow melts enough.) We'll be doing everything else (got the windows for free from a friend doing a remodel.) I have couple of questions:
1) Are the floor boards tongue and groove?
2) Are you using this cabin actively in the winter? If so, does the stove provide enough heat, especially without insulation in the roof?
Thanks.
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TomChum
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2011 17:14
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Quoting: Montanan 1) Are the floor boards tongue and groove?
No they are flat 3/4 boards nailed onto 3/4" OSB. 2x6 floor joists support the floor, with R19 insulation. Buy your floor boards ASAP and put them at the site where they can acclimate in the dry, for as long as possible before they nail down.
Quoting: Montanan 2) Are you using this cabin actively in the winter? If so, does the stove provide enough heat, especially without insulation in the roof?
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rayyy
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2011 06:03
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Another awesome sucess story.We envey you Tom.
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Montanan
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2011 01:57
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Thanks for the replies. We're aiming to use the cabin in -0 temps (we're less than 10 miles from skiing) so we want to make sure we get the right sized stove. We're planning to insulate the roof, though. For the floor, did you insulate underneath the cabin itself- i.e. crawl underneath and put up insulation under your piers?
Thanks!
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TomChum
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2011 11:05 - Edited by: TomChum
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We insulated the floor from above, before sheeting it. Each of the floor joists has a 1x3 on the bottom so there is a "ledge" at the bottom of the joists. We dropped 8foot x 14" wide strips of OSB in between the joists so there is only wood below, to protect the insulation from critters. These strips are just held down by gravity.
Regarding stoves, I started another thread in January called "controlling heat from a woodstove". It has a pic of the "too-small potbelly stove", and good replies from other members.
I'm certain that a HUGE amount of my heat is lost thru the roof. Also due to air leaks because it is "just boards" with shake felt above. The roof boards were not adequately dried before nailing them on. Sitting under that nice dry heated roof, they've shrunk, opening a 1/4" gap between each board. So at each gable end I have 26 little 'vents' (one between each board, that add up to 4.5 inches each gable). Plus there is leakage across the whole roof under the felt. Don't judge your stove by my roof. My roof is designed to be 'classic' not to save firewood.
If you can use a modern stove and an insulated (and a tighter roof) it should be no problem heating your place at 0deg. I'd place the stove at least 30" away from the wall so people can stand all around it. Also you can build a hotter fire. And theres room to hang clothes on the wall to warm, (or dry) behind the stove.
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neb
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2011 22:37
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Awesome.
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samoni
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2011 10:33
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so so cool! This is almost the same layout/look as the one we started building. I love the railing in the loft. Beautiful!!
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RnR
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2011 12:39
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You could sell photos of your cabin as postcards. I hear you about being obsessed. Thanks for sharing your great story!
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